More trouble for Petraeus, it looks like....Petraeus staff investigated over Broadwell access

[TorchTheWitch]

49. that isn't what I was talking about

She had clearance to review the docs she had. It was her security of them that's in question, and as of the last news info they still aren't sure if she had any docs that were classified that she had unsecured. It has not yet been said whether or not she's on the hook for having unsecured classified docs. Her clearance and Petreaus's instruction to his staff gave her access to the classified docs. Petreaus included her in the "need to know" since it was him that instructed his staff to give her access to the docs, which they did, and him telling her she could have them, which he also did. He wanted her to have them as she was his personal biographer that HE wanted glued to his side and writing and speaking glowingly of him despite Obama's admonishment to him that in accepting the appointment of CIA top cheese he had to keep a low profile... no entourage, no contact with the media, no strutting around showing off his uniform and chest wall of glory, etc. Once again he disregarded the president and kept his biographer around feeding her classified info for the sole purpose of exposure to the public about him and did speaking engagements wearing his chest fruit salad on his suit jacket, which of course is totally contrary to keeping a low profile. The dude is liar and has disregarded even the president several times so he could do what HE wanted to.

Who is it that is the decider on who has "need to know" anyway? Being the top cheese of the CIA wouldn't that decision fall to him? Who is it that is higher in the hierarchy that is the one that decides who has need to know within the CIA if not for the head of the CIA - Petreaus - himself? Of course, as his personal biographer she had no ACTUAL need to know, but was it HIM that decided for his own personal reasons that his personal biographer should be in on the "need to know" despite her not having any ACTUAL "need to know"?

You were saying that it was only her that lied to the FBI in saying that Petreaus didn't give her access to any classified docs as he told them as well. They BOTH lied about that, and it's Petreaus that is ultimately responsible since he was the top cheese and told both her and his staff she could have them... his telling the truth that he did not give her access and it being just her and his staff that suddenly couldn't remember to properly secure classified docs is ludicrous. They only would have done this upon HIS instruction. Whether or not he personally gave her any docs - who knows. I certainly wouldn't put it past him that he did. After all, he'd already told his staff and her that she could have them and didn't give a fig about their security or any actual need for her to know, so why would he care especially when he clearly didn't care about instruction (read: orders) from the president himself and has done end runs around Obama before.

I'm also curious about how she got this clearance level to begin with. Did HE give it to her so that she could have classified docs she had no actual need to know so that she could be his personal biographer for his personal self-promoting reasons? I find it hard to believe that she just so happened to have the appropriate clearance level when he found this attractive young Petreaus worshiper.

I never said she wasn't guilty of anything. I don't know if she is or not since at this point that's what the FBI has said... they are in the process of reviewing whether or not she broke any laws here in having the docs in the state she had them as far as whatever their security should have been. I also never said she wasn't doing any lying of her own. I think she has lied about Petreaus giving her access to the docs she had and doing it to cover both their asses. But that was never what I was talking about anyway. What I have been talking about is that it is Petreaus who lied and instructed his staff to give her whatever docs she wanted and told her she could have them. HE is the one with the ultimate responsibility here. I don't believe for one single second that his staff and her just blithely forgot all about proper security and did whatever they wanted without his say so and not only believed his say so was enough but also believed that his say so gave them no other option.