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RandySF

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Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:44 PM Nov 2012

VERY detailed article on Obama's polling. I suggest you read the whole thing. [View all]

WASHINGTON -- Summing up the lessons learned from a massive investment in data and technology, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina has a blunt message for pollsters: "We spent a whole bunch of time figuring out that American polling is broken."

At a Politico forum on Monday, Messina spoke about the campaign's "three looks at the electorate" that gave him a deeper understanding of "how we were doing, where we were doing it, where we were moving -- which is why I knew that most of the public polls you were seeing were completely ridiculous."

David Simas, the Obama campaign's director of opinion research, provided The Huffington Post with more details about those three sources of polling data:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/21/obama-campaign-polls-2012_n_2171242.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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My opinion; I think the polls were skewed that way for a purpose, and that purpose (if things had teddy51 Nov 2012 #1
DURec and Kick. Very interesting!! longship Nov 2012 #2
An election CAN be stolen RandySF Nov 2012 #3
We all know about 2000. longship Nov 2012 #4
I agree. RandySF Nov 2012 #5
Are you trying to tell us that we can't discuss that particular topic... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #7
Wow, let them express their opinions. Coyotl Nov 2012 #8
Yes there is a time to get defensive when we have people on DU that are trying to shut down teddy51 Nov 2012 #17
Your characterization is not true Coyotl Nov 2012 #49
In spite of your objectionable tone, I will respond. longship Nov 2012 #10
Dude, check out this link RobertEarl Nov 2012 #11
History? Don't you mean post hoc fallacies? longship Nov 2012 #13
Now why would anyone want to argue with your logic, I am certain you don't want to hear teddy51 Nov 2012 #14
Hmmm RobertEarl Nov 2012 #15
I know! Wasp and Plague and Bob "The Dog" did it!!! longship Nov 2012 #19
No pal, your the one that's ignorant. You obviously have no IT experience and therefore have no teddy51 Nov 2012 #20
Ignorant? It's "you're" not "your" longship Nov 2012 #23
Wow, lol ... I guess we have broken you down when you get to Spelling and grammar. teddy51 Nov 2012 #26
There will be evidence RobertEarl Nov 2012 #22
See my response #16 longship Nov 2012 #24
Yeah, sure, dude RobertEarl Nov 2012 #27
I agree with you. For some reason there are those on DU that seem to have a problem admitting teddy51 Nov 2012 #12
A straw man argument. longship Nov 2012 #16
"Look! Our system hangs on the edge. But it still functions, in spite of the GOP oppression." teddy51 Nov 2012 #18
No! The language I am trying to shut down is this. longship Nov 2012 #21
No pal, you are the pathetic one! I don't know if a source such as Anonymous was involved in any teddy51 Nov 2012 #25
Can you believe that dude? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #30
Good job Robert and I have your back! I will not sit here 12 years later and pretend that any teddy51 Nov 2012 #31
We know in 2008 the turnout smoked the theft RobertEarl Nov 2012 #38
We talk about the actual Presidential election, but not about the house that may or may not teddy51 Nov 2012 #40
Read two reports from 2010 RobertEarl Nov 2012 #41
Where was the stolen election? longship Nov 2012 #33
Just go away! You have no credentials in this argument anymore. You have proven your utter teddy51 Nov 2012 #36
If anyone wants to know... Agschmid Nov 2012 #43
"The language I am trying to shut down"??????????????????????????????????????????? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #29
There was no fucking stolen election in 2012!!! longship Nov 2012 #34
No thanks to you, but it certainly could have been. And if it had been! What would you have said teddy51 Nov 2012 #39
I entirely agree with you on this. longship Nov 2012 #42
A dozen primary elections were electronically flipped to Romney! reusrename Nov 2012 #58
Yes. He won because it wasn't close. aquart Nov 2012 #54
Two things theKed Nov 2012 #56
You know who else are "thick"? Smug DU'ers who think they have a lock on the unknowable. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #28
The unknowable? longship Nov 2012 #37
Tin Foil Hats have nothing to do with it -- it is the ugly reality of our election history Samantha Nov 2012 #44
Well, you have your facts straight there. longship Nov 2012 #45
Thank you, and obviously the Republicans did not steal 2012 Samantha Nov 2012 #46
"46. Thank you, and obviously the Republicans did not steal 2012" longship Nov 2012 #47
I think Romney defeated Romney (not to take away from the outstanding ground game of the Dems) Samantha Nov 2012 #50
Thanks to this post, I now understand where I disagree with you. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #48
Great post! Lisa0825 Nov 2012 #51
Yeah, electronic voting is completely tamper proof. Don't worry! Go back to sleep now, kiddies. Zorra Nov 2012 #53
Simplistic and not backed up with any evidence at all. aquart Nov 2012 #52
It didn't seem to have worked longship Nov 2012 #55
There were stolen elections. In the primaries. reusrename Nov 2012 #59
I wish the geniuses behind the scenes would stop giving away such sensitive info. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #6
+ 1,000 n/t KT2000 Nov 2012 #35
Interesting, THANKS. nt Raine Nov 2012 #9
Great reading! thanks for posting this. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #32
it seems the biggest disconnect was simply focusing on the national instead of state numbers unblock Nov 2012 #57
Something different happened this year. RandySF Nov 2012 #60
This was a great OP. Raine1967 Nov 2012 #61
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