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JoeyT

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10. It's easy to be against free trade and for immigration.

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:17 PM

Nov 2012

Immigrants are working and spending the money they make here, which keeps it circulating through the economy.

Free trade lets a corporation cut out all those people that would benefit from the wages being spent by paying virtually nothing in another country and pulling the profit straight to the top.

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How did American companies get tax breaks for moving jobs overseas? [View all] kentuck Nov 2012 OP

Senator Wellstone, Paul. RIP RobertEarl Nov 2012 #1

Well, Bill Clinton pushed NAFTA, and signed it gladly. loudsue Nov 2012 #24

He was opposed to it originally, but when he realized it was going to pass anyway Samantha Nov 2012 #39

He was for it even during the presidential campaign naaman fletcher Nov 2012 #40

Not saying this is your position but I always wondered if those against free trade True Earthling Nov 2012 #2

I don't see that connection in the same way? kentuck Nov 2012 #3

Europe has free trade and open immigration and is much more progressive than the US with pampango Nov 2012 #5

Do countries such femrap Nov 2012 #7

Germany and France do not give tax breaks to companies that off-shore manufacturing, but pampango Nov 2012 #25

Europe has freer trade and immigration within the EU 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #13

European countries have more 'free trade' than the US, including with Mexico, Columbia, Egypt, Peru, pampango Nov 2012 #26

I think 'stronger unions' are the key ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #19

Agreed. Germany is proof that strong unions and high wages are not incompatible with a strong pampango Nov 2012 #29

As someone that wants to emigrate, let me assure you that Europe does not have anything like Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #35

Each European country has open immigration with 26 other countries. pampango Nov 2012 #41

And we're all free to move to 49 other states, hardly the description of open immigration. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #42

There is NO "free trade". These trade agreements are designed to promote corporate profits. AdHocSolver Nov 2012 #9

It's easy to be against free trade and for immigration. JoeyT Nov 2012 #10

I think many of the Free Traders, the top 1%, aren't anti-immigration. LeftInTX Nov 2012 #18

"free trade" is SUCH a misnomer. It is actually only "free capital". annabanana Nov 2012 #34

Concise, accurate summary, as I see it. (Edit: image added) OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #4

Ask Clinton Ironblood Nov 2012 #6

Bill femrap Nov 2012 #8

GATT has been around since 1948. It was negotiated by FDR and signed under Truman. The WTO replaced pampango Nov 2012 #31

Actually, It was a Bit Different than Your Explanation mckara Nov 2012 #11

Blame this man: gollygee Nov 2012 #12

they don't get a tax break for moving jobs overseas per se La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #14

They don't have to pay US taxes on overseas profits unless they move the money HiPointDem Nov 2012 #30

Well, Ross Perot Dan Nov 2012 #15

Unwillingness to tackle the problems would be an upgrade in circumstances TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #16

It's not even small businesses that "create" jobs. obxhead Nov 2012 #17

Demand starts the process of creating jobs.... underoath Nov 2012 #20

You just confirmed exactly what I said. obxhead Nov 2012 #23

Thanks! underoath Nov 2012 #27

Tough doesn't even really begin to describe it. obxhead Nov 2012 #32

We're a nation that is unable to manufacture goods to meet its own consumer demand. Selatius Nov 2012 #43

The foreign policy / national security establishment will screw both labor and corporations FarCenter Nov 2012 #21

I hope Pres Obama can do something about it. LeftInTX Nov 2012 #22

They don't get a tax break "for" Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #28

For or when obxhead Nov 2012 #33

Words are not irrelevant Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #36

Right obxhead Nov 2012 #37

Dwight Eisenhower warned us about this in his farewell address. Initech Nov 2012 #38