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4th law of robotics

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28. Ahahahaha

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 03:23 PM

Nov 2012

Yes the pilgrims wrote this out centuries ago for foxnews viewers today.

/isn't it funny how every failing of capitalism is capitalism's fault because the system must be flawed but every failing of communism is people's fault since the system is perfect.

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The Pilgrims experiment with communal property and socialism ended badly [View all] True Earthling Nov 2012 OP

The greatest secret of the Pilgrims were that they were failed communists. grantcart Nov 2012 #1

The Pilgrims were thieves, liars, cannibals and killers Submariner Nov 2012 #2

So the failure had nothing to do with the system... True Earthling Nov 2012 #6

Ah, truly the pilgrims were unique among humans then 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #23

that's just ridiculous. cali Nov 2012 #46

I descend from a large number of pilgrims, including a minimum of 4 kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #54

How can you have socialism without first having capitalism? white_wolf Nov 2012 #3

all kinds of animals do it. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #8

We think alike wolf...... socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #50

They did it totally wrong. The Shakers did it right, and had complete success... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #4

How did the Shakers survive more than one generation with no sex? The rule itself contradicts bluestate10 Nov 2012 #11

The Dominicans have the same rule and are coming up on their 800th birthday. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #17

As do many Buddhist Sanghas and they are approaching their 2,500th birthday. n/t white_wolf Nov 2012 #22

Adoption 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #26

Actually, most of the orphans the Shakers took in left.... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #48

Like any Nunnery or Monastery--they took in outsiders, including orphans... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #47

They adopted foundlings, for one thing jmowreader Nov 2012 #57

Complete success? That explains why we are overrun with Shaker communities today. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #12

It's not clear how they didn't see that coming 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #25

Classic AlexSatan Nov 2012 #38

They did see it coming in regards to "if everyone was a Shaker..." However... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #49

There are currently 5 shakers in existance 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #24

You are saying that a community that forbade sex was "doing it right"? Matariki Nov 2012 #33

It was such a smashing success that the earth currently boasts upwards of 5 shakers 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #40

LOL. Matariki Nov 2012 #44

What I meant was, if a cult--and the Puritans were a cult like the Shakers-- Moonwalk Nov 2012 #51

And in the end most of them died anyways. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #5

one of the few useful posts in this thread CreekDog Nov 2012 #62

It's lucky for them, also, that the Native Americans.... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #7

"Imagine if they hadn't been so selfish and narrow minded, so vain and stupid" 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #41

I didn't know such studies had been done on the minds of ants.... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #55

Although altruistic deeds are to commended... True Earthling Nov 2012 #59

I can think of one reason your wife might be a saint CreekDog Nov 2012 #64

Not necessarily true AlexSatan Nov 2012 #52

anti-social behavior begets ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #9

Here is what I get from the op RobertEarl Nov 2012 #10

Propaganda... Right wing source... Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #13

What? It's a primary source. It predates the concept of "right wing" by 160 years. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #15

This was not socialism. They tried to do things communally which didn't work Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #16

liberty fund? True Earthling Nov 2012 #19

Click home from the link. This is obvious propaganda. Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #20

This isn't "analysis"...it's the original document written in 1623. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #27

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #31

myfreedompost.com? eShirl Nov 2012 #35

He's trying to prove that something written in the 1600s is retroactively neoconservative Posteritatis Nov 2012 #36

So a document written in 1623 is some kind of right-wing propaganda? NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #43

Ahahahaha 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #28

The text at that link is more than a century older than the United States. Posteritatis Nov 2012 #29

Here is the same idea from a more direct source Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #30

It is not possible to be more direct than a primary source without being physically there. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #32

i think he's saying that the OP wasn't researching bradford on his own, he got the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #39

Rome collapsed in a deliberate attempt to discredit promiscuity, homosexuality, and heathenism 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #42

It predates the concept of "socialism" as well n/t fishwax Nov 2012 #45

Imperialistic religious extremists would just naturally find sharing with others Zorra Nov 2012 #14

I've heard this view of the Pilgrims expressed before. The Midway Rebel Nov 2012 #18

Yes Tsiyu Nov 2012 #65

This sounds more like the system we have today. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #21

Albeit true, the problem is treating this as a parable for modern society. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #34

Not sure if I would call their solution socialism... True Earthling Nov 2012 #56

It was both a tithe and a tax jmowreader Nov 2012 #58

The account is not correct. It demeans the Native americans who actually saved their white asses BanTheGOP Nov 2012 #37

Total fiction? True Earthling Nov 2012 #53

They were Right Wing Theocrats obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #60

The Native Americans' experiment with communal property and socialism ended badly DireStrike Nov 2012 #61

My 11th great grandfather didn't come for socialism...he came with his family to make money HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #63

I don't see socialism here. I see communism. n/t ceile Nov 2012 #66

As the experiment with unfettered capitalism is ending badly right now. marmar Nov 2012 #67