Rather than ask "where to begin", you might want to aks "Where to end". (Reply #259)

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Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:04 PM

whathehell (19,856 posts)

259. Rather than ask "where to begin", you might want to aks "Where to end".

We just voted Against the Idiots for the second time in a general election

and we are the only large western democracy I know of to have elected a man of color to our highest office

for the second time. Yes, Sweden, like many other European nations, have "people of color"

just as we do. I don't see any of them up for the Top Job.

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325 replies	Author	Time	Post
Are You Dumber than an American? [View all]	unhappycamper	Nov 2012	OP
despite the total lack of common sense and evidence?	Flashmann	Nov 2012	#1
The problem is ubiquitous even on DU.	xtraxritical	Nov 2012	#138
It's not satire and it's not funny	AlbertCat	Nov 2012	#152
maybe it's not funny to YOU- but a LOT of others seem to like it.	BlueMan Votes	Nov 2012	#177
I absolutely agree!	ReRe	Nov 2012	#164
Why can't you choose to simply not watch it and allow those that	EmeraldCityGrl	Nov 2012	#272
Whew.... I hit a nerve...	ReRe	Nov 2012	#274
No, hardly. I'm just tolerant of other	EmeraldCityGrl	Nov 2012	#276
I think you did use the word "petty", no?	ReRe	Nov 2012	#277
P.S.	ReRe	Nov 2012	#278
P.S.S.	ReRe	Nov 2012	#279
Welcome. You have a Happy Thanksgiving as well.	EmeraldCityGrl	Nov 2012	#290
Oh, come on. I'm from the South and I find that hilarious.	redgreenandblue	Nov 2012	#292
what a stupid article. yeah, all americans are stupid except for "the brilliant elite".	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#2
I think you misinterpreted the description. It isn't that the American elite are brilliant, rather	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#4
use of definite rather than indefinite article suggests otherwise.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#5
It is a translation done by a volunteer from Swedish. But if you want to get all freaked out by it,	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#10
well then all bets are off. do you read swedish? because all we have is the english	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#12
I found the original	DFW	Nov 2012	#20
thank you. "av" is what is translated as "beside"? what are the various senses of "av"?	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#27
"av" means "Of"	Demeter	Nov 2012	#46
google translates the sentence in question as:	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#52
Point of the article demonstrated above.	liberalmuse	Nov 2012	#84
care to expound on what you find so stupid? or perhaps contribute your own summary?	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#88
LoPointDem would be a better handle for you.	xtraxritical	Nov 2012	#139
unfortunately, i'm unable to respond in kind. some posters are allowed to	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#218
be careful with google translate	thesquanderer	Nov 2012	#149
i appreciate dfw's translation, which clarified the passage.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#161
"European Sport". Really? All europeans do this?	Lars77	Nov 2012	#72
about as many as there are stupid americans...	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#97
70 years ago now	treestar	Nov 2012	#96
28 million dead Russians may disagree with your post.	go west young man	Nov 2012	#187
The thing about accusing people who criticise you of having	sibelian	Nov 2012	#263
I married a Swede	Demeter	Nov 2012	#275
Swedish is very easy for an English-speaking person to learn	DFW	Nov 2012	#111
thank you. i appreciate the discussion of the individual words.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#117
Nice post!! I just saw it after posting my own attempt at translation through German. n/t	xocet	Nov 2012	#123
Greetings...(now to the "I'm not an expert, but I play one on the internet"-segment of the thread)	xocet	Nov 2012	#121
See my dissection above (post 111)	DFW	Nov 2012	#134
Thanks.	xocet	Nov 2012	#159
There are a LOT of similarities in the basics of German and Swedish	DFW	Nov 2012	#162
That is really cool. I need to check out Swedish grammar.	xocet	Nov 2012	#173
Have I ever been to Belgium?	DFW	Nov 2012	#179
You must have a very interesting existence - I won't ask what you do....	xocet	Nov 2012	#217
The Sächsisch dialect is from the area of Leipzig.	defacto7	Nov 2012	#223
just for a note	defacto7	Nov 2012	#224
"Sächsisch" just means "Saxon"	DFW	Nov 2012	#260
I deal with Americans every day. It's rare to find one that can speak in complete sentences	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#35
what "we do as a nation" has nothing to do with the intelligence of individual	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#42
You didn't even read it, did you? Enjoy your outrage. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#43
your post? i read every word. i'm not outraged. you appear to be the outraged	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#45
I thought this paragraph made a good point.	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#47
i think it's pretty easy not to to so. i think israel, as a nation, does plenty of shitty	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#57
Which one of those nations has a military equal to the rest of the planet combined?	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#59
none, but that seems to me irrelevant. or perhaps relevant in this way: if they did,	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#60
And because most hegemons have acted that way it's not amazingly dumbass?	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#66
how many other places have you lived? it's not that different from anywhere else.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#68
Try not paying attention to that stuff and then having social conversation with people	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#73
i haven't found it such a terrible minefield if i discuss rather than lecture (contrary	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#80
More listening, less lecturing.	xtraxritical	Nov 2012	#140
yes. as i acknowledge. du is not real life.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#143
Or try not watching television and carrying on a conversation with the majority	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#178
Yeah, that was my point	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#183
You got me. I skipped over a lot of the rant.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#185
That is absurd.	grantcart	Nov 2012	#294
i've heard the "only in..." line from people from every country that i've met.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#302
"Only in America" refers to a Horatio Alger type rags-to-riches story. Not generosity.	Romulox	Nov 2012	#309
Are you including yourself and your family in your stereotype?	lalalu	Nov 2012	#87
none of the people on this thread are the dumb ones, of course. the dumb ones	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#99
I just find it interesting that	lalalu	Nov 2012	#100
If only you could see how far off the mark you are	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#141
Myself, no. Most of my family, most definitely. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#175
No exceptions, this is stereotyping all Americans.	lalalu	Nov 2012	#191
Nice try, but this pathetic attempt to re-write what was written to suit your defense will not fly.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#194
You reread.	lalalu	Nov 2012	#197
And another fail from the outraged illiterate.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#199
When you can't defend your position then personal attacks are all you have.	lalalu	Nov 2012	#202
I provided the evidentiary quotation in the reply.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#221
How ironic that you are the one behaving like a dumb American.	lalalu	Nov 2012	#234
I know you are, but what am I?	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#235
I just told you what you are.	lalalu	Nov 2012	#236
I know you are, but what am I?	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#237
It's "rare" to find an American who can speak in complete sentences? What does that say about	cherokeeprogressive	Nov 2012	#215
do you read swedish	AlbertCat	Nov 2012	#153
hardly. it's a function of location and economics, nothing to do with intelligence.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#158
Swedish is tricky with its articles	DFW	Nov 2012	#14
Here you are.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#36
The Scand. languages have also conveniently simplified verb conjugations	Jackpine Radical	Nov 2012	#124
Verbs are a joy for sure, no conjugation at all	DFW	Nov 2012	#136
I was gonna mention the subjunctive	Jackpine Radical	Nov 2012	#151
Oh, yeah.	DFW	Nov 2012	#156
I was sorta aware of ðat.	Jackpine Radical	Nov 2012	#165
If you can really read the runes, kudos	DFW	Nov 2012	#168
I wrote this:	Jackpine Radical	Nov 2012	#169
OK, now I'm REALLY impressed!	DFW	Nov 2012	#171
Making their point indeed!	elleng	Nov 2012	#145
Brilliant people are not necessarily	FlaGranny	Nov 2012	#17
My reply was badly worded, or at least not specific enough.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#41
What exactly are you pissed about?....	OldDem2012	Nov 2012	#15
i'm not pissed. i think the article's stupid, at least the title & excerpt i read in	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#49
I too have lived and	billh58	Nov 2012	#69
i understand where it comes from as well. it comes from selective media reports,	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#76
Right you are	brush	Nov 2012	#83
Exactly	lalalu	Nov 2012	#98
That is not what was said.	gcomeau	Nov 2012	#110
You may be right. However, in which country is it that average citizens don't	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#119
None of them. Not the point at all.	gcomeau	Nov 2012	#132
sweden 1st ventured into neoliberalization decades ago, and not just in ed. not something new, e.g.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#160
You quibble and miss the big picture:	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 2012	#144
Martin Bashir has a commercial where he basically says:	Whisp	Nov 2012	#252
smug and stupid article.	cali	Nov 2012	#3
She said in a sweeping generalization	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#21
really? so you actually think that sweeping generalizations are an intelligent way	cali	Nov 2012	#25
And Palestinians are violent	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#31
Really? I don't see Cali making that assertion & I don't see her name on the link you provided.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#89
The link I provided was to a DUer calling Palestinians "naturally violent"	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#91
Um, yeah, whatever.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#127
I had it to start with and I think you're wrong	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#128
I think not, and even if what you say about Cali is true,	whathehell	Nov 2012	#189
Example of sweeping generalization by cali	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#324
"rarely" is a qualifier.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#29
It's still a sweeping generalization	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#33
however, it has the merit of truth value. which the propositon that americans are	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#37
I just find it humorous that cali of all people denounces sweeping generalizations	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#44
hmm. you may have a point there.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#50
+1. Ironically, it's one of those OPs that	sufrommich	Nov 2012	#40
LOL.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#81
Agree 100%	lalalu	Nov 2012	#203
Television, the drug of the nation. Breeding ignorance, fear, and anti-intellectualism. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#6
Yep. No country in the world has the superior marketing strategies of the U.S.	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2012	#63
and I guess no other country in the world has television either.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#82
And you guessed wrong.	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2012	#104
Oh my. I guess I should remember that sarcasm thingy.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#109
they have it, but they never watch it. well, not very much. oh wait -	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#106
have you seen commercials in other countries? they do just fine. they have all the	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#103
Yes, actually I have seen commercials in the other countries of the world. Lived in some of.	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2012	#108
there may be a real journalism still alive in europe, i actually don't know. but the right	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#113
Wage slaves in Europe	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2012	#122
....	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#163
There's a difference between Guest Workers and your average German employee.	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2012	#251
Love the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy reference. nt	OnyxCollie	Nov 2012	#135
There aren't many of us that recognize that, although since LCD displays have become nearly	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#174
I've got the four song EP/maxi single	OnyxCollie	Nov 2012	#182
I'm thinking of Theodore White's first book:	ewagner	Nov 2012	#7
+1 nt	laundry_queen	Nov 2012	#8
Indeed we have become consumers instead of citizens.	mountain grammy	Nov 2012	#107
I was hoping this was a TV show. -nt-	DireStrike	Nov 2012	#9
LOL! +1	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#11
No, because I grew up in Massachusetts, or as the Tea Party calls it "The most liberal Country in	pam4water	Nov 2012	#13
DURec	x2 vancouverite	Nov 2012	#16
I love this country.	brokechris	Nov 2012	#18
Re: Palin--the "exist" wasn't meant to be taken literally	DFW	Nov 2012	#133
I didn't know you wrote the article	brokechris	Nov 2012	#180
I didn't know you read Swedish	DFW	Nov 2012	#216
I'm actually much smarter than the average American	tavalon	Nov 2012	#19
if you long to be a Canadian	brokechris	Nov 2012	#23
Because I'm poly with an autistic child	tavalon	Nov 2012	#30
if they want you and you can	brokechris	Nov 2012	#39
I spent years trying to find that way	tavalon	Nov 2012	#195
"poly" = ?	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 2012	#146
While it's currently going to hell in a handbasket,	tavalon	Nov 2012	#192
Ah, thanks. Know of polyamory; please use the word not the abbreviation except in contexts	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 2012	#230
Yeah, you're right	tavalon	Nov 2012	#232
Vancouver is wonderful...	BobTheSubgenius	Nov 2012	#222
Currently living in one of the most expensive places in the US	tavalon	Nov 2012	#233
If they don't want your family, why would you want to move there?	Dr. Strange	Nov 2012	#258
discussion groups are poor places to explain the intricacies of a situation such as mine.	tavalon	Nov 2012	#267
.Well, thanks for telling us that, Tav, especially since it's not especially apparent.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#105
Please... for the love of all that is good and just... be joking.	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#118
Yes, I had hoped for the same	whathehell	Nov 2012	#126
Vancouver specifically	tavalon	Nov 2012	#196
I doubt that will be far enough.	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#205
Does my expressing an opinion offend you in some way?	tavalon	Nov 2012	#207
Well, I guess it depends on how you express it, now doesn't it?	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#243
Did you not get the part where it's merely a pipe dream and not going to happen?	tavalon	Nov 2012	#268
"Pipe" dream. Ah, clever...	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#280
Well, you are bright if not kind.	tavalon	Nov 2012	#308
I've found that people who talk like that,	Union Scribe	Nov 2012	#214
+ 10	whathehell	Nov 2012	#316
Home schooling	BlueinOhio	Nov 2012	#22
You said it, and you said it well!	mountain grammy	Nov 2012	#92
As long as our News Media is allowed to	oldbanjo	Nov 2012	#24
no more so than any other nation. you have the educated and uneducated. the curious,	seabeyond	Nov 2012	#26
yep. no difference. i heard palinesque stuff 30 years ago from a pair of canadians	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#32
Oh, so now you think anecdotal evidence proves sweeping generalizations. Logic much?	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 2012	#147
not at all. where did i say such a thing? but you know, there's a logical gap from "half the	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#172
The half that voted for Romney sure do drag the average down severely.	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 2012	#176
Thank you. Like many others here, I get very tired of the obligatory Five Minutes of Self Hate.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#193
Appealing to America's ignorance and gullibility	The Wizard	Nov 2012	#28
yep. most of the memes come from the "brilliant elite" themselves, and are used	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#34
Fundamentalist Christians	BlueinOhio	Nov 2012	#38
I've tried to make it through watching Idiocracy, but never have, one of my failings in	RKP5637	Nov 2012	#54
A barely mediocre comedy staring Luke Wilson.	Dash87	Nov 2012	#181
You're right, as a comedic film it is awful. But, as a social commentary, and possible	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#186
Perhaps Ms. Thug .	whathehell	Nov 2012	#286
None taken, and I have always, on occasion, enjoyed a little pain. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#305
So you're a masochist?	whathehell	Nov 2012	#306
Hey, I'm a really left liberal, intellectual, and a member of DU.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#312
Hmm...	davidthegnome	Nov 2012	#48
Years before my wife and I got together	chemenger	Nov 2012	#51
you know something?	brokechris	Nov 2012	#55
"Stupid and self-centered"?	whathehell	Nov 2012	#125
I can't disagree with anything you've stated in your response, however	chemenger	Nov 2012	#129
I find most of humanity pretty stupid, so I don't think America has the only leading role when	RKP5637	Nov 2012	#53
+1000000 It's not an American issue...	dionysus	Nov 2012	#204
Ah, yes, the sensible Swedes, for whom child porn was legal until 1999.	WinkyDink	Nov 2012	#56
To paraphrase George Carlin. . . .	ncgrits	Nov 2012	#58
and where do you stand in this hierarchy of smartness? as you are standing back	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#65
HA! I would like to think that I am in the top 1/2, but doing so probably qualifies me	ncgrits	Nov 2012	#130
Forgive me	Arcanetrance	Nov 2012	#61
No "forgiveness" needed	whathehell	Nov 2012	#190
For all the consternation the Swedish author is causing in this thread, I have to get a	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#62
The author makes a very smart point.	Barack_America	Nov 2012	#74
I thought so too. I just can't understand the utter outrage here about what she wrote in this	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#77
If she had inserted "conservative" in the title we'd all be applauding this.	Barack_America	Nov 2012	#79
I tuned in on precisely that vibe from her.	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#86
Rather than ask "where to begin", you might want to aks "Where to end".	whathehell	Nov 2012	#259
It's great that we have elected a person of color to President, yes and good for us!	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#262
Yes, it is and of course I know that it's not "everything", and as a progressive democrat	whathehell	Nov 2012	#264
I feel that we are "evolving" on the social programs faster than we have on the	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#266
People vote where they think they're given an actual choice	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#273
that observation gripped me too.	BlancheSplanchnik	Nov 2012	#154
What many under a certain age don't realize is that this idiocy, this "rejection of science", etc.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#310
Very true	treestar	Nov 2012	#101
Stupid people do the bidding of the plutocrats.	Barack_America	Nov 2012	#114
Oh, that apocalyptic dialect, really gets me	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#142
lol. yeah, it's all those stupid people serving as worker bees and managerial personnel in the	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#170
You might consider reading the post I was responding to...	Barack_America	Nov 2012	#184
+1000	noiretextatique	Nov 2012	#167
I was wondering why the Frisbee was getting bigger.	aandegoons	Nov 2012	#64
LOL	RKP5637	Nov 2012	#67
Stupid sells.	Barack_America	Nov 2012	#70
Only in America is the film Idiocracy not considered a satire. nt	valerief	Nov 2012	#71
Americans aren't "stupid"	Liberal1975	Nov 2012	#75
i agree with the general thrust but i'd just like to say that america never scored	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#102
Thanks	Liberal1975	Nov 2012	#120
"I stand by my theory that we are much more disillusioned than stupid." I agree.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#166
US became most powerful economy in large part by attracting highly educated intelligent immigrants.	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 2012	#148
Interesting discussion, lots of defensiveness.	Maineman	Nov 2012	#78
Lighten up!	denvine	Nov 2012	#85
Margaret Thatcher, Sarkozy, soccer riots, Greek rightwing extremists,	lalalu	Nov 2012	#90
Thank you. Although I've learned to expect a lot of knee-jerk anti-Americanism	whathehell	Nov 2012	#323
It is due to our misguided belief that disputation and argument lead to the truth	FarCenter	Nov 2012	#93
Funny...	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#115
Customers rather than citizens	treestar	Nov 2012	#94
We are ... (both)	Maineman	Nov 2012	#95
Oh, dear. More of this shit...	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#112
Maybe you missed this	valerief	Nov 2012	#131
Quite amusing that...	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#137
...	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#188
Always enjoyed that one...	ElboRuum	Nov 2012	#201
I guess it's a good thing we don't have a democracy then.......	Burma Jones	Nov 2012	#116
If you make one ethnic slur, you are embracing and tolerating ALL ethnic slurs	melody	Nov 2012	#150
Correct, and the dummies eagerly embracing this self-hate shit sandwich would be excoriating	whathehell	Nov 2012	#198
Exactly, well said.	melody	Nov 2012	#220
Thank you. n/t	whathehell	Nov 2012	#256
I'm allowed to point out the flaws of my own ethnicity	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#206
You're still a bigot	melody	Nov 2012	#219
Aww, I love you too	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#229
We must question our prejudices	melody	Nov 2012	#239
What part of "popular culture" do you fail to understand?	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#240
Believe what you need to believe	melody	Nov 2012	#245
I'm rubber and you're glue your words bounce off me and stick to you..	Fumesucker	Nov 2012	#247
I wasn't trying to be mature or logical -- simply concise and honest	melody	Nov 2012	#250
No, "American" is not an ethnicity. It's a nationality. They are not the same thing.	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2012	#227
An ethnic quality or affiliation resulting from racial or cultural ties	melody	Nov 2012	#238
Nope	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2012	#242
My background is in cultural anthropology	melody	Nov 2012	#244
Congratulations	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2012	#246
That's right, anthropoloogy and dictionaries are wrong ... you are right	melody	Nov 2012	#249
Show me an anthropologist who defines "American" as an ethnic group.	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2012	#254
In regard to Melody's point, It's a distinction without much of a difference	whathehell	Nov 2012	#257
Thank you once again n/t	melody	Nov 2012	#270
You're very welcome, Melody	whathehell	Nov 2012	#281
We don't have just one ethnicity	melody	Nov 2012	#261
Yep.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#283
Learn to read pls	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2012	#319
You learn to read pls	whathehell	Nov 2012	#320
Brilliant elite?	louslobbs	Nov 2012	#155
GOP try to wisen up	BlueinOhio	Nov 2012	#157
The National Democrats/Sweden Democrats hold seats in their government	lalalu	Nov 2012	#200
You're correct, lalalu, but the drooling europhiles here will likely ignore that	whathehell	Nov 2012	#285
Yea, yea....dumb Americans....	paleotn	Nov 2012	#208
I'm a danger to myself and others.	Deep13	Nov 2012	#209
Damn Swiss!!!	grantcart	Nov 2012	#210
We should invade them	billh58	Nov 2012	#291
Sweden is not Switzerland.	MichaelMcGuire	Nov 2012	#296
No, I meant Switzerland	billh58	Nov 2012	#301
You mean Swedish.	MichaelMcGuire	Nov 2012	#297
It's like fishing. You put out a little bait and eventually one will bite.	grantcart	Nov 2012	#303
It's ok I'm allowed a slow day every once in a while.	MichaelMcGuire	Nov 2012	#321
no harm no foul, done it many times myself	grantcart	Nov 2012	#322
Flip side of idiotic emotionalism is rugged individuality.	McCamy Taylor	Nov 2012	#211
47.59% are dumb in my book	bluemarkers	Nov 2012	#212
And, what? You imagine that a majority of the rest of the world's populations are Brilliant?	whathehell	Nov 2012	#288
that's what you take away from my post? lol!!	bluemarkers	Nov 2012	#304
knr	spanone	Nov 2012	#213
We're probably all in the same boat.... Kind of a happy start to the season!	defacto7	Nov 2012	#225
Hypocrites.	leftlibdem420	Nov 2012	#226
Sweden: Pot calls kettle black	lbrtbell	Nov 2012	#228
"Dumb" is exactly the wrong word here. The right word is "ignorant."	eridani	Nov 2012	#231
Yes, and I'm sure there is no "ignorance" in Sweden where, as another poster pointed out	whathehell	Nov 2012	#265
I'm not understanding you. Are you saying that...	CTyankee	Nov 2012	#269
No.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#282
Here's the sense in which the article is true:	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2012	#241
I just recently watched the Helen Mirren Prime Suspect series, from the early 90s	valerief	Nov 2012	#253
And they let Helen Mirren's character age, too	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2012	#255
Is this your first and perhaps only experience with Euro TV?.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#287
Bwahahahaha! Well, I've been duly finger-wagged over an issue I really don't care about.	valerief	Nov 2012	#289
Oh, I'm sure you "really don't care about" it..	whathehell	Nov 2012	#295
Wow, I didn't realize Euro TV was so damn important. Why it is, I don't know.	valerief	Nov 2012	#298
Apparently it was "important" enough	whathehell	Nov 2012	#299
My point about Prime Suspect being a good series? You don't think it was? nt	valerief	Nov 2012	#300
No, I think your point was that	whathehell	Nov 2012	#307
Wow, you must really feel guilty about finger-wagging me over such a petty issue. nt	valerief	Nov 2012	#311
Wow. How did you arrive at such a bizarrely erroneous conclusion?	whathehell	Nov 2012	#313
This message was self-deleted by its author	valerief	Nov 2012	#314
Well, it looks like the youngster has blocked me, but here's my message.	valerief	Nov 2012	#315
Wrong again...You didn't think it was "only tv" when you wrote a rather lengthy post	whathehell	Nov 2012	#317
No, Val...I haven't blocked. you. Check and see if you're sending your post to the right person.	whathehell	Nov 2012	#318
I never grow tired of these articles	4th law of robotics	Nov 2012	#248
I don't even have to click on your link to know what you said is true. It's axiomatic.	randome	Nov 2012	#293
Media propaganda	upi402	Nov 2012	#271
No, wait, I am an American.	Rex	Nov 2012	#284
Sadly, I partially agree with this article...	frostfern	Nov 2012	#325

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