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Unknown Beatle

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61. You're right.

Reply to 99th_Monkey (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:44 PM

Nov 2012

2000 and 2004. Late night and a coupla drinks later.

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Anonymous did not stop Rove from stealing the election. [View all] Plaid Adder Nov 2012 OP

I don't know why so many people find it hard to understand that Obama kicked ass... nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #1

Me either. Some insist on giving the credit to anyone but Obama. freshwest Nov 2012 #13

How does giving someone credit for doing one thing equal giving credit for doing another? aandegoons Nov 2012 #34

All bases covered, iow. ananda Nov 2012 #41

I agree-Of course Obama won because he is the better candidate- no one is disputing that RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #68

Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) bestobdii Nov 2012 #103

Anonymous isn't claiming credit for winning the election . . . markpkessinger Nov 2012 #108

And Romney exemplified Suckitude - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #32

We know that. But, had the votes been closer, we would have been vulnerable to "hacking". ladjf Nov 2012 #52

He did kick ass brush Nov 2012 #56

People spent years here convincing themselves Rove is omnipotent. Posteritatis Nov 2012 #91

Obama won RobertEarl Nov 2012 #2

THANK YOU! Care Acutely Nov 2012 #3

Good Points, Plaid.. thanks for your view.. cannot Cha Nov 2012 #4

Thank you! Obama clearly won and that is that. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #5

I don't believe Anonymous stopped Rove from stealing the election, either, but BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #6

Obama did with having a good ground game within Ohio JI7 Nov 2012 #8

Kerry was leading in Ohio in 2004, Unknown Beatle Nov 2012 #14

I believe you must mean elections were stolen in 2000 and 2004, right? 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #15

You're right. Unknown Beatle Nov 2012 #61

Most final polls had Bush up in Ohio in 2004... Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #29

Why believe Anonymous was the "someone" just on his or her say so? n/t pnwmom Nov 2012 #86

there was Fraud , but Obama just did well enough that even with that he still won JI7 Nov 2012 #7

K & R TroglodyteScholar Nov 2012 #9

Anonymous is all talk. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #10

Ohio IS NOT irrelevant and NEVER WILL BE. Every VOTE COUNTS so all votes should be COUNTED. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #11

+1 OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #20

+2 bahrbearian Nov 2012 #95

I have no doubt Obama won on his own merits. However, I think the fix AllyCat Nov 2012 #12

+1 cascadiance Nov 2012 #37

well said! Thanks! AllyCat Nov 2012 #105

Lots of weird, strident opinions and posts on this faux issue... Bonobo Nov 2012 #16

Didn't people work their butts off in 2000 and 2004 too? But those elections were stolen, in part by DesertDiamond Nov 2012 #17

Agreed. =D n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #28

There was no hacking in 2000 jeff47 Nov 2012 #49

Nate Silver had Obama winning by 5% in Ohio PossumSqueezins Nov 2012 #18

PossumSqueezins your attitude towards North Carolina is BS and uncalled for. Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #23

You said that SO well! marions ghost Nov 2012 #46

+1 and thanks for your hard work jsmirman Nov 2012 #116

2% is within the margin of error of the polls Nate was using. jeff47 Nov 2012 #50

It's amazing how easily some will believe quinnox Nov 2012 #19

It's Amazing How Little People Expect in the Way of Evidence On the Road Nov 2012 #87

That sounds logical JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #21

Actually, electronic vote flipping did win the primary for Romney. reusrename Nov 2012 #47

I thought we were just talking about Ohio. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #62

Unfortunately, 65,777 votes were flipped from Santorum to Romney in the primary. reusrename Nov 2012 #70

We had 625 votes at our precinct not counting paper or provisionals. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #72

Well, see that's the problem. You have no way of knowing. reusrename Nov 2012 #73

That is not a problem. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #75

I guess I don't understand. reusrename Nov 2012 #78

I don't see how this will help, but I'll make it easy JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #90

I, for one, thank you for all the information jsmirman Nov 2012 #117

Thank you - both for this information, and being a poll worker muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #118

Anonymous could prove it if they did. They haven't so likely, they didn't. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #22

If they did it, they could provide evidence... Frank Cannon Nov 2012 #24

It's possible that they may be waiting for a while..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #27

If they can send an anonymous email, they can send a printout of the code they found. randome Nov 2012 #36

Yes, I'm sure thwarting his evil election plans would be totally safe, but providing evidence of the AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #58

I don't think you really get my point. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #71

If that were the case, they would have NEVER CLAIMED CREDIT AT ALL. PERIOD. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #74

Not necessarily true. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #77

You're essentially making the case that they have no reason to AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #81

The evidence will be released in 24 business hours tritsofme Nov 2012 #101

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #112

Oh, maybe not overall, but..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #25

The flaw in the argument I've heard... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #26

Republican polls were also shit. Barack_America Nov 2012 #43

No matter the national outcome marions ghost Nov 2012 #45

Why? jeff47 Nov 2012 #53

Winning a state counts marions ghost Nov 2012 #57

Winning a state but losing the country doesn't count at all. jeff47 Nov 2012 #59

the only thing I agree w you on marions ghost Nov 2012 #63

My questions are not difficult to answer. jeff47 Nov 2012 #79

The fix was still in. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #30

President Obama and the people won the vote through hard work. However, Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #31

"It is naive to think that Rove did not believe he had a "fix" in place..." marions ghost Nov 2012 #44

If you are correct, Rove is utterly incompetent and can be ignored jeff47 Nov 2012 #54

Rove is a bit blind about his abilities and his opposition. He is a control freak not a realist Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #64

So you want voting machines to continue to be hackable? jeff47 Nov 2012 #80

You seem to assume Anonymous somehow owes responsibility to America. They clearly do not think so. Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #88

So...they should be cheered because they ensured the next election will be hacked? jeff47 Nov 2012 #93

The case against EV was made long ago by much wiser folk than me. The proofs likewise are already Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #96

Again, all hacks to date require changing the software or attaching hardware to the machine jeff47 Nov 2012 #109

If Anonymous did anything it was by definition outside the law. Are you leading the investigation Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #114

No. Read my fucking posts. jeff47 Nov 2012 #115

I have not advocated for them NOT to post the evidence. Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #119

I love that they bunched up so many panties! RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #33

LMSP kicking... littlemissmartypants Nov 2012 #35

So, let's follow the trail of evidence and figure out who created the big fraud and why. Coyotl Nov 2012 #38

Obama and his campaign won the election. Anonymous may have protected the vote. Barack_America Nov 2012 #39

DU rec...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #40

I agree that the tremendous GOTV was the deciding factor. Hugin Nov 2012 #42

Obama won the election by making OH irrelevant. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #48

Karl Rove Toon Roundup = please add a few favs Coyotl Nov 2012 #51

If it's true, they need to put up or shut up. WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #55

If they did it why would they try to engage the corrupted justice system they clearly mistrust? Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #67

Hi Plaid Adder, it's been a while since I noticed you post rock Nov 2012 #60

If there's a public fear that the electronic vote is hackable, Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #65

Ohio was irrelevant. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #66

It's also possible that somebody else blocked Rove's plans, allrevvedup Nov 2012 #69

Karl Rove is Anonymous. Prove he isn't. graham4anything Nov 2012 #76

Anonymous has exhibited something remotely resembling a conscience Fumesucker Nov 2012 #82

ever hear of devil's advocate. Rove is a player in an organization. Not the head, just a player. graham4anything Nov 2012 #83

Exactly, a good player has no use for a conscience, it's just an impediment, a drag on potential Fumesucker Nov 2012 #84

that is why trying him is a waste of taxpayer money. graham4anything Nov 2012 #85

I was on Bartcop back during the recount brouhaha, we had it figured out in near real-time there Fumesucker Nov 2012 #89

As were folks on the ancient MSNBC boards. Hugin Nov 2012 #94

If only a simple tweet then could have alerted the entire world while it happened graham4anything Nov 2012 #97

Very true. Hugin Nov 2012 #98

Off to basic logic school with you! (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #92

True. But then again, it's also totally stupid not to cover your ass Zorra Nov 2012 #99

Wast a legit Anon making the claim FogerRox Nov 2012 #100

Just stop. Nobody is saying Obama didn't win. Please stop wasting everybody's time with nonsense BlueStreak Nov 2012 #102

- Unless Rove was expecting to hack the vote in several states - OhZone Nov 2012 #104

He didn't think he needed to in FL and VA BlueStreak Nov 2012 #110

Give credit to the Obama campaign ground game rightsideout Nov 2012 #106

Please stop. Nobody is saying Obama didn't have a good campaign BlueStreak Nov 2012 #111

K & R Scurrilous Nov 2012 #107

seems kind of weird that romney got even 40ish % of the vote but whatever ;) Sunlei Nov 2012 #113