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Warren DeMontague

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34. I knew we'd get at least one.

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:09 PM

Nov 2012

No, it's not "based on faith". It is based on evidence. Verifiable PHYSICAL evidence. Only in.. well, nowhere- is an assertion that someone pulls out of thin air considered somehow 'equivalent' to data backed up by physical evidence.

The Earth is approximately 4.5 Billion years old. That is not "faith", that is not "fanciful speculation", it is not "debatable". It is a FACT. The Earth is NOT 6,000 or whatever years old, it was not made by magic in a week.

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Slate: Why Doesn't Florida Senator Marco Rubio Know How Old the Earth Is? [View all] Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 OP

Hit these fucktards with, oh, say, radio-carbon dating and the fact that it coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #1

Yep. And Satan put those dinosaur bones in the ground to confuse us also davidn3600 Nov 2012 #3

Didn't Noah or Moses or some such figure ride a dinosaur to work each day? - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #6

Actually, that was Alley Oop peace frog Nov 2012 #11

oop, oop nt griloco Nov 2012 #21

No, no...that was Jesus! BadgerKid Nov 2012 #28

No, no, no. God did it to test us. He just miracle'd up all these peculiarities to see if we could tclambert Nov 2012 #14

Faith is trying like hell to believe in something you know can't possibly be true. jerseyjack Nov 2012 #24

Radiometric dating; but not radio-carbon dating. Jim__ Nov 2012 #20

Much appreciated. I had been using "radio carbon dating" for coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #40

They just say its not accurate Nevernose Nov 2012 #58

One of the "flat-Earth ignoramuses"? Well if the Earth isn't flat, how could it have been flooded? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #2

Ever seen a puddle on a patio? A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #13

Sure. But the Bible(s) doesn't say that God flooded the patios one patio at a time. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #32

Well...... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #35

That must explain it. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #37

This comes as not much of a surprise Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #4

Haha. That's hilarious to anyone with more than a passing knowledge of coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #7

Catholics aren't fundies--they are free to believe in brokechris Nov 2012 #10

"Catholics ... are free to believe in science ..."? What about Galileo Galilei and his telescope? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #33

Oddly enough, things change in four hundred years. Posteritatis Nov 2012 #57

All have? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #59

Unfortunately, my Daughter has become one of the 46%. dotymed Nov 2012 #16

He probably knows, he just wants to be politically correct and not upset the teabaggers nt darkangel218 Nov 2012 #5

Exactly agentS Nov 2012 #8

If 46% of the country honestly believes this gibberish Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #9

Not a leader. A leader would have courage to stand for science. Doesn't take much courage. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #12

Jesus & the Dinosaurs rizlaplus Nov 2012 #15

That is hilarious Ghost of Tom Joad Nov 2012 #17

I think most politicians are atheists NNN0LHI Nov 2012 #18

Most are sociopathic soulless whores jsr Nov 2012 #23

Oy Vey... Marmitist Nov 2012 #19

Actually several competing hypotheses on the creation (origin) of the universe exboyfil Nov 2012 #76

Rubio is a poopy-head. jerseyjack Nov 2012 #22

I was taught in the synagogue rickyhall Nov 2012 #25

I've said it before, Rubio is a 100% dumbass. tridim Nov 2012 #26

The reason they can get away with this, is because they do alright for themselves Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #27

He's even got the literalist account wrong. GaYellowDawg Nov 2012 #29

My bet is that most members of DU don't KNOW how old the earth is hfojvt Nov 2012 #30

I knew we'd get at least one. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #34

you say it is based on evidence hfojvt Nov 2012 #38

Yes. It is based on evidence. I have seen the evidence. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #39

No you haven't seen the evidence. You've learned the measurement systems used KittyWampus Nov 2012 #41

It is a FACT. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #42

No, it is an assessment using our best tools and methods. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #63

The precise age down to the 4th decimal? Of course, a best assesment. And science is always looking Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #68

I didn't get the impression that the exchange was a debate between Jesus riding dinosaurs TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #71

The person I was arguing with was challenging the basic validity of radiometric dating itself- as a Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #73

first of all hfojvt Nov 2012 #45

Oh for fuck's sake. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #47

not a fan of explicating? hfojvt Nov 2012 #48

I'm not a fan of "debating" creationism, which you certainly seem to be trying to advance. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #49

no the debate is about the age of the earth hfojvt Nov 2012 #50

So you think that all the radiocarbon evidence is.. what.. faked? Inaccurate? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #51

I am fairly certain that radiocarbon evidence does NOT prove the earth is 4.5 billion years old hfojvt Nov 2012 #52

There is SCIENTIFIC data. That's how old the Earth is. Deal with it. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #53

by "deal with it" you seem to mean hfojvt Nov 2012 #64

I don't care whether you believe it or not. I don't waste my time debating creationists. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #69

My memory may be faulty on this. The 4.54 or so billion years has little or nothing retread Nov 2012 #72

For the record, here is the wikipedia on oldest dated Earth rocks. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #80

You just asked a lengthy string of silly questions and made a useless jsmirman Nov 2012 #54

There's just no fucking point. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #60

What is a silly question? hfojvt Nov 2012 #61

Nobody wants to play your game because you are rejecting science and offering nothing jsmirman Nov 2012 #62

I have not rejected science hfojvt Nov 2012 #65

Congratulations to you jsmirman Nov 2012 #66

For what it is worth hfojvt Nov 2012 #70

Sorry, the person you tried to reach jsmirman Nov 2012 #74

but not too busy to be an a$$hole hfojvt Nov 2012 #75

Dude, my life is more important than an argument you drop in on jsmirman Nov 2012 #78

I have no faith in science Laochtine Nov 2012 #77

Translation: "I don't understand this stuff, so nobody else possibly can." (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #56

bad translation hfojvt Nov 2012 #67

The "jury's still out!" rock Nov 2012 #31

It's 4.53 billion years old, dingbat! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #36

He knows how old the Earth is estimated to be geomon666 Nov 2012 #43

He said why demwing Nov 2012 #44

The jury's still out. He is afraid to study the earth too much. If he goes too far he may retread Nov 2012 #46

So ... the two choices are "7 days" or "7 eras" BlueStreak Nov 2012 #55

why do we care? Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #79