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In reply to the discussion: Anonymous, Karl Rove and 2012 Election Fix? - Thom Hartmann/Truth-Out [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I dont BELIEVE conspiracy theories. And I am not a denier, either. I try to keep an open mind.
First of all I believe there are conspiracies. Life is full of conspiracies. I know that makes life a little harder but that's what I BELIEVE.
Karl's job is to conspire, and specifically to conspire to "win" elections. He was given a shit load of money and I dont believe he used it to make yard signs.
I believe the election was stolen in 2000.
I believe the election was stolen in 2004.
After each of those events there were those that adamantly denied that the elections were stolen. And it isnt enough to just disagree with those that suspected, but the deniers find it necessary to use ridicule to try to shut down discussion. Like calling those that suspect something went wrong, Conspiracy Theorists, as if that is a bad name. Now more and more evidence is being presented showing exactly how those elections were stolen.
The Republicans choose Rmoney as their candidate knowing that he wasnt popular. I believe they choose him because they could control him easier than someone more moderate. And they were told not to worry about the election results, Rove was on it.
Some of the events, computer systems going "down", were the same as what happened in 2004. Coincidence? Maybe.
Rove was visibly shaken when Ohio didnt flip.
I do not know what happened and therefore dont BELIEVE in any specific theory. But I do BELIEVE that the Republicans know they cant win on their merits. I do BELIEVE they have tons of money and think that money can buy anything, even an election. I do BELIEVE that they would steal an election if they could. I also BELIEVE our electronic voting system is vulnerable to tampering.
None of the above paragraph would apply to Allen West.
I would hope you would keep an open mind and not try to disparage those that dont agree with you.