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25. Sadly it is a true fact
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 12:51 PM
Dec 2023

that even winning the next elections does not mean these fascist folks are going away. The fight we have right now is one that is going to go on for decades because there literally is trillions of dollars of wealth around the world bankrolling the authoritarian takeover. They will keep on through the judges, local,state and Federal elections and in countries directly throughout the world. Their authoritarian control gives them huge increases in their wealth with little downside.

I agree with you that the country isn't safe anymore. The record number of guns out there is climbing unabated year after year. The efforts to marginalize and "disappear" various groups of people and normalize violence against them and denial of basic human rights will go on and will gain steam in fact as the authoritarians lose elections because they will look to take out their anger on those groups.

Adding to all of this is the backdrop of climate change beginning to rapidly manifest itself as an impact on human life on a daily and near term basis. The more reactionary, authoritarian governments will look to military and police power to try and silence protests demanding change. The financial owners of these leaders will look to keep a lock on their power in the social and industrial order. As the economy falters they will deny it is doing so and beat down anybody trying to show the truth.

So one thing that people should factor in to their "relocation" choice should be an examination of what that country(s) situation may look like relative to climate change impacts and the likely responses from the government. In other words will the government be likely to be supportive of the people or be punitive and restrictive. Having said that it is a scenario for the next couple of decades at the least and understanding the general underlying culture/political history of the country will help in that analysis especially if anyone considering a change of country is not overly familiar with their proposed choice.

Nothing is of course guaranteed but it is a sure bet that the interconnected aspects of globalization/economies are going to be greatly affected as we go forward. It's a safe bet that no matter where one is located it's going to be a tumultuous time.

What you have said is not wrong, we need people who see our faults honestly Walleye Dec 2023 #1
If it suits you snowybirdie Dec 2023 #2
If you care snowybirdie Dec 2023 #3
If Trump becomes dictator Farmer-Rick Dec 2023 #13
Easy to say if you can blend in with everyone else ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #35
. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #4
There's fighting ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #36
I'm very aware of that. I saw nothing in the OP to indicate they face those challenges, and people who can seriously WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #43
Don't leave: vote. Talk everyone you know into voting. When I get questioned I question those losers back ... marble falls Dec 2023 #5
And what happens if we vote and still lose? ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #37
There are always problems wherever you go and you'll be a foreigner. Fit in whether you like it or not. betsuni Dec 2023 #6
Almost all of our ancestors left their home country for a better life in the US. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #7
My ancestors were brought here in chains. John Shaft Dec 2023 #10
Yes some were brought by force and enslaved. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #19
I'm there with you moniss Dec 2023 #12
I can get a passport to one European country Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #20
Sadly it is a true fact moniss Dec 2023 #25
Yes. Your post is excellent. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #27
These days it's extremely hard to gain entry to most countries dickthegrouch Dec 2023 #49
If the targeting of certain groups continue, they can argue they need be given refugee status. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #53
If you are present in the US for more than 183 days in any calendar year dickthegrouch Dec 2023 #54
I thank goddess... usedtobedemgurl Dec 2023 #31
Many years ago I had moniss Dec 2023 #33
Ugly American Cherokee100 Dec 2023 #8
I agree that we have a lot of problems in this country, but many of them can be fixed with time and votes for Democrats. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #9
If TFG is re-elected in 2024, I will abandon the US by January 2025. No apologies. sinkingfeeling Dec 2023 #11
My ancestors came here before William Penn RainCaster Dec 2023 #14
Lots of judgement on this thread, Eyesore. Each person has their own destiny, their own path. PatrickforB Dec 2023 #15
We've considered leaving too, but kids and grandkids here and the better concept of America is worth a fight dutch777 Dec 2023 #16
I thought about leaving this country but being as poor as I am I have no choice in the matter Stargazer99 Dec 2023 #17
I going to stick it out. pwb Dec 2023 #18
I Love My Country Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #21
Wherever you go to find serenity sindri Dec 2023 #24
That's always been my answer to the "Love it or leave it" false patriots Martin Eden Dec 2023 #32
I would have to be emotionally sick to love a country Stargazer99 Dec 2023 #40
Really where you going to go? UK was imperialistic and massively racist-still is. Demsrule86 Dec 2023 #22
It's BAD no doubt about that. BUT what if the soldiers in WW1 and WW2 thought that way and did the same? bluestarone Dec 2023 #23
Exactly my thought Rebl2 Dec 2023 #30
My Husband and I Have Discussed It Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #26
At least you have a good answer for your critics Shermann Dec 2023 #28
There's also how our divided government (dumb ass GOP isolationism) causes us to... brush Dec 2023 #29
Would emigrating lessen your love or your concerns for America? Martin Eden Dec 2023 #34
Worst country on the planet maxsolomon Dec 2023 #38
The country is a work-in-progress struggle4progress Dec 2023 #39
Criticizing the country is PART of being an American. WarGamer Dec 2023 #41
What country has the ethical purity your looking for? Mosby Dec 2023 #42
Thanks for the responses EYESORE 9001 Dec 2023 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2023 #48
If it weren't so expensive to move to a saner, more Democratic and liberal country to my liking... Silent3 Dec 2023 #45
I will never abandon my country to fascism Skittles Dec 2023 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2023 #47
America is beautiful not perfect uponit7771 Dec 2023 #50
Which places consider to be better civilized societies ? JI7 Dec 2023 #51
Yes. betsuni Dec 2023 #52
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