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dflprincess

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32. How is saying that someone prevented the election from being stolen

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:36 AM

Nov 2012

"degrading Obama" or that he is not legit?

They aren't claiming they stole the election for the president they're saying they saw to it his votes were counted honestly.

After 2000 and 2004, plus all the voter suppression efforts that have gone on do you really think the Republicans are just so honest they wouldn't try to steal another one? And what's the bigger crime, election fraud or hacking?

I do not understand why Democrats want to pretend there's not such think as election fraud - anymore than I understand why LBJ and Everett Dirkson agreed to keep Nixon committing treason in 1968 was the best thing for the country. (Listen to the tape of Johnson & Dirkson discussing this, if you haven't heard about it.)

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Did Anonymous set up a firewall that prevented Rove from stealing the election? [View all] Taverner Nov 2012 OP

This concept is like herpes demwing Nov 2012 #1

Goddamned, you're right! randome Nov 2012 #17

Here's the issue I have. Occulus Nov 2012 #46

Can't people realize PRESIDENT OBAMA WON. His voters voted. The other side lost. HONESTLY graham4anything Nov 2012 #2

"The rightwing would love an excuse." For what? That the right wing ie: tried to steal another teddy51 Nov 2012 #6

I agree. Obama won, we GOTV, and the other side HONESTLY lost. BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #19

Why couldn't realize that Bush won in 2000, his voters voted etc. etc. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #22

I blame 2000 on Ralph Nader the traitor. NO Bush and Gore were not the same. But people believed it graham4anything Nov 2012 #25

No Nader would not have turned Florida for Gore thanks to a massive Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #55

Yes, thanks to all the efforts of people on the ground who STOPPED sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #29

One does not oppose the other, or negate it either nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #36

An excuse? AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #52

Of course we have no proof of this, but something certainly made Rove upset teddy51 Nov 2012 #3

Romney losing would have done it for Rove gravity Nov 2012 #7

Nope, I think he got out Roved by someone or Anonymous. They gave him a warning prior teddy51 Nov 2012 #10

He got out Roved by Obama, Plouffe and Axelrod gravity Nov 2012 #26

they were trying to win more house seats and did not want it called early. No need for a CT graham4anything Nov 2012 #12

That's a hell of a lot of money to spend on someone you want to lose. BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #20

The goal was to make Jeb look sane. Guess what, it has worked. graham4anything Nov 2012 #21

I love these conspiracy theories. I mean to say they spent billions sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #24

hackers should be in jail. end of story. graham4anything Nov 2012 #27

How is saying that someone prevented the election from being stolen dflprincess Nov 2012 #32

So you're saying that the white hats should have stepped down BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #33

Rove wasn't stealing the election. Rove was getting slapped down by others who valued their future graham4anything Nov 2012 #37

How would helping someone to win by any stretch of even the most creative sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #34

I love community activists that worked to secure MORE votes for a candidate graham4anything Nov 2012 #35

It Was The Moment The Bubble Hit Reality... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #45

Did you actually see what happened that night? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #49

Here is the article from the NY Times on what really happened w/Karl Rove election night graham4anything Nov 2012 #56

The zombies are gonna get us all!!!! longship Nov 2012 #4

Mine's already on fire! HappyMe Nov 2012 #5

That's an awesome animated gif... SidDithers Nov 2012 #8

I'll throw my 2 cents in... Taverner Nov 2012 #9

I don't care. xfundy Nov 2012 #11

Jefferson wrote all men are created equal, yet he owned and abused slaves. It never was the way it graham4anything Nov 2012 #13

Hey, if someone on the right like Rove thinks he and his consortium are the only one's teddy51 Nov 2012 #15

Option missing from the polls is: Maybe. n/t Tx4obama Nov 2012 #14

Thom Hartmann video regarding Anonymous & Rove, below Tx4obama Nov 2012 #16

No WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #18

You don't believe in cyber-crime? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #23

Stopping an attempt to hack the election is not a crime gravity Nov 2012 #31

I wouldn't think that at all. Zorra Nov 2012 #54

I think more than half of "Anonymous" is the FBI and Interpol. MADem Nov 2012 #28

Cool. Nice to think that it was the FBI that saved Ohio for us. nt Zorra Nov 2012 #42

I think that Ohio thing is fiction--but I don't mind if people wanna believe it. MADem Nov 2012 #57

While I can't *completely* rule it out, it seems far too unlikely for me to answer anything but "no" InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #30

I don't know Marrah_G Nov 2012 #38

Everything about this rests on an assumption. randome Nov 2012 #39

Third choice, feasible nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #40

+1 n/t TDale313 Nov 2012 #53

I lean toward thinking Anon did... 99Forever Nov 2012 #41

SDP Alert! - "Seriously Dumb Poll" hexola Nov 2012 #43

If we all wish really, really hard... randome Nov 2012 #44

No. Dash87 Nov 2012 #47

A long as there is no third option (i.e., maybe), I have to pass Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #48

No. And anyone with a rudimentary understanding of networking knows it's bullshit... nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #50

I have a CCNA and it's not apparent as bs... Taverner Nov 2012 #58

I don't know. I never say anything is real or unreal until I get good evidence or see it myself. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #51