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Nov 2012

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Why? Why would Anonymous release evidence against Rove? [View all] MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 OP

Be afraid. Rove is untouchable. ProSense Nov 2012 #1

So when are the prosecutions of confessed war criminals scheduled to start? MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #4

and you can munch on your non-sequiturs along with the popcorn. cali Nov 2012 #6

Stealing...nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #8

Care to point one out? MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #246

Conclusion: No evidence should be presented because nothing will happen. ProSense Nov 2012 #7

That's not what I said, is it? MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #10

"I said that Anonymous would be foolish to release evidence." ProSense Nov 2012 #12

The age old debate... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #46

funny, because I think both camps here are being idealistic. bettyellen Nov 2012 #105

I do believe you made my case... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #155

one of my friends working the polls actually saw a local councilman bettyellen Nov 2012 #173

Yep Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #185

Karl Rove has Obama's authentic Kenyan birth certificate Coyotl Nov 2012 #47

Now, now, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #59

Reality check. reusrename Nov 2012 #84

Where is the evidence that Romney won the primaries by hacking voting machines? D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #107

Mike Collins has written articles with links to the proofs. reusrename Nov 2012 #204

I don't know. randome Nov 2012 #206

First, no one is comparing anything; each instance stands on its own. reusrename Nov 2012 #214

Thanks for posting that. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #216

Sure, I understand that. reusrename Nov 2012 #243

Only the DUINOers. nt valerief Nov 2012 #100

What exactly is it that you don't believe? reusrename Nov 2012 #79

Oh crap, another line of BULLSHIT being inserted into the mix to prove the bullshit Coyotl Nov 2012 #135

What the hell are you going off about? reusrename Nov 2012 #209

I don't think you 'get' Anonymous. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #116

Oh, I get it. ProSense Nov 2012 #119

No I don't think you do or you would not be demanding they provide evidence sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #128

Let's all believe that in the US when evidence of War Crimes, Election sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #156

They will be scheduled sometime after the DOJ investigates and files charges. Zorra Nov 2012 #224

As manny said, when is the war crimes trial scheduled to start? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #21

He's femrap Nov 2012 #37

No one is claiming what you state. Rove is as touchable as Oliy North or Scooter Libby. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #64

"Rove is as touchable as Oliy North or Scooter Libby." ProSense Nov 2012 #85

Oliy got a slap on the wrist and Libby got pardoned. Wow. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #92

"You may 'take it' but it's not enough for me." ProSense Nov 2012 #95

You dont think that Anon has evidence that the DoJ isnt aware of, do you? rhett o rick Nov 2012 #132

Lol, the JURORS convicted Libby, and then what happened?? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #168

You seem to be spending a lot of time defending Rove, why is that? bahrbearian Nov 2012 #68

Please, try that cheap psychology on someone else. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #87

I thought this was the DU, not American CrossRoads. bahrbearian Nov 2012 #89

This is the place where some believe evidence is unnecessary. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #98

I think some proof would be nice, but your adamantly asking for that proof is curious. bahrbearian Nov 2012 #109

Pro, let tell it like it is.. Hutzpa Nov 2012 #121

ProSense - you need to go back through the zillions of posts here throughout the campaign bupkus Nov 2012 #110

+1000% n/t sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #236

Because they made a big claim without any evidence whatsoever cali Nov 2012 #2

Rove made a bigger claim malaise Nov 2012 #5

Indeed he did... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #54

Yes, and he was proven wrong due to evidence. Pale Blue Dot Nov 2012 #56

This administration protected Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #51

I think part of the prior protection... Bibliovore Nov 2012 #80

Perhaps, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #88

Which do you mean? Bibliovore Nov 2012 #103

I was thinking of the nastiness of an investigation Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #150

You don't protect war criminals for the sake of bi-partisanship. Anyone sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #166

This is much more concrete though treestar Nov 2012 #96

Perhaps. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #99

DU is populated by a lot of gullible want-to-believe new agers Coyotl Nov 2012 #58

What an insult Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #123

I don't like BULLSHIT Coyotl Nov 2012 #161

Apparently most of DU is bullshit to you Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #190

But But But YOU STILL Post Here HangOnKids Nov 2012 #191

YOU seem to want to believe you've made a cohesive argument (apparently while not grasping that YOU WinkyDink Nov 2012 #133

What nonsense. "Fairyland of individuated reality nearly devoid of science and logic " WCLinolVir Nov 2012 #244

Did Justice prosecute him for the firing of the US Attorneys? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #118

Tough to use evidence obtained illegally against Rove, isn't it? cleduc Nov 2012 #3

Nope--as long as the government didn't steal it, 'stolen' evidence is perfectly fine msanthrope Nov 2012 #11

exactly grantcart Nov 2012 #13

Post #9 was claiming that Anonymous might be a government agency Fumesucker Nov 2012 #23

Strange but true! nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #198

Rove will never be convicted in this country. It's far more like that the sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #171

What makes you think any evidence Anonymous has gathered hasn't been sent to the DoJ? BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #9

So you're saying that secret police would be a *good* thing in your eyes? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #19

Never said such a thing. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #114

Here's what you said, you clearly implied secret police is a positive thing Fumesucker Nov 2012 #120

I didn't imply anything. YOU are implying I meant something I hadn't. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #149

Since when is/are Anonymous acting as a police power? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #136

Don't ask me, it wasn't my idea Fumesucker Nov 2012 #143

What makes you certain that Anonymous gathered any evidence? D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #112

There! See? I pose a scenario and it gets vetted. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #153

People have been splitting tickets for 200 years. jeff47 Nov 2012 #158

In NC 2004, did black Dems split ticket Bush? unc70 Nov 2012 #217

So....time to change the subject when the argument isn't going your way? jeff47 Nov 2012 #219

Replying to your misleading response in other thread unc70 Nov 2012 #225

So now we're on to the "can't be bothered" stage. jeff47 Nov 2012 #238

We know lots about anonymous. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #176

Ut oh Manny... 99Forever Nov 2012 #14

"ya mean Anonymous doesn't answer to self-appointed 'inquisitors'" ProSense Nov 2012 #17

Yes. 99Forever Nov 2012 #22

Do you think Rove is impressed? ProSense Nov 2012 #27

I'm tellin' ya... 99Forever Nov 2012 #32

Try finding some evidence, any evidence, a tiny bit of evidence Coyotl Nov 2012 #63

Why? 99Forever Nov 2012 #101

How do you know I'm not Anonymous? Coyotl Nov 2012 #138

+1 D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #147

Time For Sunlight... KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #15

they'll never release any evidence because their claims are pure, unadulterated bullshit nt RomneyLies Nov 2012 #16

And your credentials are? HangOnKids Nov 2012 #192

Lol funny, you don't know much about Anonymous do you? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #234

Rove is vulnerable because the untouchables aren't going to protect him anymore. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #18

Good point - I never thought of that. n/t Raksha Nov 2012 #76

They wouldn't. They don't have any. MineralMan Nov 2012 #20

^^^ This ^^^ n/t RomneyLies Nov 2012 #25

Yeah, I am with you on that one. Jennicut Nov 2012 #30

They also made all the Unicorns invisible. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #44

At least one person sees through the logic. Thanks for making it so clear Coyotl Nov 2012 #66

Ninja? I can see the whites of your eyes. MineralMan Nov 2012 #71

You only *think* you're seeing my beady eyeballs. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #124

Ninja are Japanese.. AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #231

You sure do not know much about the history of Anonymous. I imagine sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #235

"They" being someone on pastebin toddaa Nov 2012 #61

They took down Thom Hartmann too, big time. He's toast now, hook, line, and sinker Coyotl Nov 2012 #69

The Velvet Revolution has nothing to do with Anonymous toddaa Nov 2012 #77

Your hypothesis is certainly more likely than the bullshit claims about "the Great Oz" nt RomneyLies Nov 2012 #73

Lol, I just love the fact that they are so successful at what they do best. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #227

I agree with Prosense...I would love to have proof Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #24

Thanks, and it would go a long way ProSense Nov 2012 #28

I agree too....but with your other position LiberalLovinLug Nov 2012 #145

Anonymous should be in jail. Rove will never be convicted, therefore waste tax payer money graham4anything Nov 2012 #26

And just WHY should Anonymous be in jail??? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #130

what she is doing is illegal and terroristic graham4anything Nov 2012 #154

she? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #187

Why werent the votes recounted in the three counties that gave Bush the win in 2004" Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #29

Where did you get that disinformation? Coyotl Nov 2012 #72

I got my information on the three counties from here" Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #82

Correct but PATRICK Nov 2012 #31

For the same reason everyone else does. Hav Nov 2012 #33

Or what? 99Forever Nov 2012 #41

You seriously believe that Anonymous did what they claim they did? RomneyLies Nov 2012 #53

Actually it is very feasible under current technology nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #62

WHAT? Does someone actually believe that the video was Anonymous? Coyotl Nov 2012 #74

Make shit up much? 99Forever Nov 2012 #139

Of course our beliefs are relevant. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #167

Oh my! 99Forever Nov 2012 #178

At least you are consistent. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #182

I'm more interested in the ... 99Forever Nov 2012 #189

OK, well in that case try harder. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #193

WTF is that supposed to mean? 99Forever Nov 2012 #194

Thinking isn't your strong suit is it? D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #202

Birthers and flat-earthers don't give a shit about what we say or believe, either. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #111

Oh noes! 99Forever Nov 2012 #151

I don't care how they feel. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #175

Apparently you do care. 99Forever Nov 2012 #177

I said I don't care how they feel. I DO care about people making extraordinary claims NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #179

Again... 99Forever Nov 2012 #184

I think some of us give a shit about whether liberals look as foolish as truthers and creationists. D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #146

"In order for evil to flourish, all that is required is for good men to do nothing." Kaleva Nov 2012 #34

Precisely. Anonymous operates outside of the law. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #35

Finally, femrap Nov 2012 #57

Because an anonymous poster on line demanded it nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #36

Yeah, screw evidence! Still, ProSense Nov 2012 #38

Evidence tells anon nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #40

"That nope it is not healthy...to turn against the powerful." ProSense Nov 2012 #42

Look, you still believe in life, liberty and the American justice system nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #48

Only fear can save us. ProSense Nov 2012 #52

There s more nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #60

"The evidence was illegally obtained, so guess what? Rove walks. It is not admissible in court." ProSense Nov 2012 #65

Go ask a lawyer nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #70

"Anon, by it's very nature, is engaged in illegal activities" ProSense Nov 2012 #78

5th amendment is not a non sequitur. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #129

The exclusionary rule does not apply to grand jury proceedings... Kaleva Nov 2012 #83

They took down that PR firm without lawyers or courts. DirkGently Nov 2012 #91

The letter they released describing the process nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #141

Believing w/o evidence is funnier DirkGently Nov 2012 #183

Read the myriad of news stories nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #188

Oh, is there a story saying ORCA was a vote-flipping program? DirkGently Nov 2012 #197

You are right, it is getting silly nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #207

And at least one of those machines was recalibrated and put back into service. randome Nov 2012 #208

I didn't say it was impossible. I said lack of evidence isn't evidence. DirkGently Nov 2012 #210

Nah, not a strawman nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #215

Illegal evidence is admissible if the government wasn't the lawbreaker. jeff47 Nov 2012 #165

And you think there will be this agreement? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #170

Try reading that again. jeff47 Nov 2012 #240

You obviously have missed what happens to Whistle Blowers in this sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #239

Example jeff47 Nov 2012 #245

Look at all the evidence of War Crimes there is, yet sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #122

Yeah, good ProSense Nov 2012 #125

I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you being sarcastic or sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #134

This has jumped the shark. Loudestlib Nov 2012 #39

Don't fall for that BULLSHIT story. Coyotl Nov 2012 #43

You know add blocker is a god send from the gods. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #49

K & R Change has come Nov 2012 #45

One reason is the sake of their own reputation... Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #50

What is there not to get about no having immunity from felony charges and reveling TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #93

Other people have used the necessity defense. Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #126

Whistle blowers are a threatened species in today's America. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #152

Not plausible. Plenty of journos would run with it. DirkGently Nov 2012 #55

Et Tu Manny? I can tell you why they *would* release evidence cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #67

Please, ProSense Nov 2012 #75

You left out the ones who think secret police are a good idea Fumesucker Nov 2012 #81

That's the central fallacy here. Exposure would be easy. If this were real. DirkGently Nov 2012 #211

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting,"Sun Tzu, The Art of War Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #86

Anonymous=Tooth Fairy blue neen Nov 2012 #90

Why should we just believe them? treestar Nov 2012 #94

Unless there's a video or a recording---Rove is super safe. n/t vaberella Nov 2012 #97

nor was the letter signed by Anonymous. robinlynne Nov 2012 #102

and why would they hand this evidence over to the current party in power boilerbabe Nov 2012 #104

This is all a nice diversion The Wizard Nov 2012 #106

Members of Anonymous are currently busy punishing the insane government of Israel. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #108

If Patrick Fitzgerald couldn't get him with all the evidence sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #113

Is there Any Need for Anonymous to do More? PrMaine Nov 2012 #115

They may have reasons for witholding their proof, but with no proof their claims NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #117

To put Rove on more than just "alert." TO SCARE HIM for the NEXT TIME. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #127

I hear Anon stopped Obama from cutting SS by 22% too!...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #131

So what do you think of Obama putting SS on the Deficit table? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #137

I hear Anon can't stop non-Democrats from posting on DU. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #140

I'm glad I wore my waders to this thread Coyotl Nov 2012 #160

Why should anonoymous play by the "legal" rules, when those that they are targeting don't operate in firehorse Nov 2012 #142

Did Anonymous actually make this claim or was it someone pretending to be Anonymous? Kaleva Nov 2012 #144

It was somneone doing a very poor job of pretending to be anonymous. Cheap vid at best Coyotl Nov 2012 #157

Hahahaha! DevonRex Nov 2012 #148

It's obvious. Because the Third Way says so, due to the fact that they need Zorra Nov 2012 #159

Excellent post as usual. I am hoping that over the next two years sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #162

I'm hoping that in the next two years ProSense Nov 2012 #169

Well if you can present some evidence that War Criminals sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #172

What? ProSense Nov 2012 #174

That's not exactly the argument. Zorra Nov 2012 #186

"We don't trust the government to do the right thing" ProSense Nov 2012 #201

You don't trust the government, the people you elect. randome Nov 2012 #203

So, like, did you trust George W. Bush and Dick Cheney? And how'd that work out for ya? Zorra Nov 2012 #229

An anonymous email. randome Nov 2012 #230

So why are you implying that I should trust elected officials over Anonymous? Zorra Nov 2012 #233

Wow, ProSense Nov 2012 #164

What's amazing is the argument that not only is providing evidence unncessary, NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #180

Yep. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #181

Kind of like faith. The more it's not there, the more it IS! DirkGently Nov 2012 #195

It sounds like people who still believe in Santa Claus. randome Nov 2012 #196

And once again you demonstrate a total lack of knowledge of sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #221

Rove is irrelevant. randome Nov 2012 #222

BS, if YOU are hoping for some 'shadowy' savior then speak for yourself. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #226

Are you calling me a snake? SSSSSSSSSSS. randome Nov 2012 #228

Like I said, you have very little knowledge of Anonymous. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #232

It might be different if certain parties were more inclined to prosecute criminals Zorra Nov 2012 #242

I think electronic voting is a danger & 3rd way is bullshit. But so's this theory. DirkGently Nov 2012 #200

Full disclosure, I don't claim to know what is going on. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #223

+1 leftstreet Nov 2012 #220

So how 2naSalit Nov 2012 #163

in politics there is no such thing as untouchable. if you become toxic your 'friends' will piss on spanone Nov 2012 #199

A lot of the "establishment" would support crushing Rove. DirkGently Nov 2012 #213

Solidarity! bvar22 Nov 2012 #205

Yes, and I'm amazed others can't see the logic of this. n/t Cleita Nov 2012 #212

Isn't Turd Blossom toast now anyway? TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #218

I give them credit, regardless... MrMickeysMom Nov 2012 #237

How about, "Because the rest of us need to know how it's done" . . . ? MrModerate Nov 2012 #241