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Jennicut

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39. Even if a state ever seceded from the US, it would face insurmountable problems.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:35 PM
Nov 2012

This article puts it very well:

"The federal government would obviously stop sending money to the states. Most of the red states — now the “New Confederacy” — had heretofore taken more federal aid than they paid back in federal taxes. South Carolina, for example, takes $1.38 in federal money for every dollar it pays in federal taxes. Louisiana takes $1.45 for every dollar it pays into the system. Talk about moochers and freeloaders. By the way, this money is redistributed from other states, including the blue states with their abortion-on-demand and evil healthcare mandate. After secession, that gravy train would cease to exist. Farmers, corporations, small businesses, universities and law enforcement would crumble without federal aid — grants, contracts, matching funds, tax breaks, etc.

If the reality of losing federal money wasn’t enough to convince the New Confederacy to stop behaving like petulant, tantrum-throwing children, then an array of more hard-core sanctions would begin. It’s likely the power grid, pipelines, shipping lanes and, yes, satellite and internet communications would be summarily blocked by the U.S. government. The confederacy would be totally cut off from the rest of the world. Meanwhile, without federal regulations on food safety, clean water, clean air, and without the CDC, rampant disease would spread across the confederacy. How would northern medical equipment and pharmaceuticals reach the seceded states? Inflation would skyrocket as demand for dwindling supplies increased. Black-marketeers would spring up in every town.

The solidly blue areas inside the seceded states — Austin, for instance — would be the Texas equivalent to West Berlin in the heart of East Germany. We’d have to airlift supplies to those areas and hope that hoards of desperate and well-armed suburban and rural warlords didn’t swoop in try to swipe the supplies. Needless to say, there would be a large scale humanitarian crisis."
http://inthecapital.com/channels/the-reality-of-secession-and-unicorns/

It would suck for them. Oh well.

Can't wait to see those responses. lol nt Live and Learn Nov 2012 #1
25000 is enough for a response? what percentage of the electorate is that? how patriotic is that ejpoeta Nov 2012 #2
that is the way they set up the website, it has nothing to do with the electorate Motown_Johnny Nov 2012 #3
It doesn't promise a review of the status of the state liberal N proud Nov 2012 #5
how about a one word response Motown_Johnny Nov 2012 #4
Exactly Ligyron Nov 2012 #8
I imagine the Presidents response will be more like this... liberal N proud Nov 2012 #9
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2012 #13
I was thinking "don't let the door hit you in the ass" Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #14
I'm not going to get my hopes up lunatica Nov 2012 #6
More than half the signatures on the two online petitions I saw in Georgia were people from out Iris Nov 2012 #7
Yea, my brother lives in Colorado and is pushing this crap on his facebook page liberal N proud Nov 2012 #10
how could he have had a high clearance job & not understand that? i think it's pretty spelled out HiPointDem Nov 2012 #20
He is so pissed off about the election, I don't think he cares at the moment liberal N proud Nov 2012 #27
That's an interesting angle I hadn't thought of - State employees in Georgia are required Iris Nov 2012 #36
And that's the point, it's an INTERNET petition, they're freeped like any other. Liberal In Texas Nov 2012 #28
Misleading: No STATES have said boo about secession. JHB Nov 2012 #11
Right and think, amazingly, Rick Perry has already spoken out against it. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #15
The signers are those that can't get over the devastating loss they suffered liberal N proud Nov 2012 #16
This was actually really cruel to do this to these people. My wingnut Fox-only watching inlaws Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #18
They were inFOXicated. JHB Nov 2012 #22
FOXicated can be the name for what these people are suffering. liberal N proud Nov 2012 #24
There's also FOXtipated... JHB Nov 2012 #30
Besides Ligyron Nov 2012 #12
And then they would expect foreign aid from the United States liberal N proud Nov 2012 #25
The Seven: Texas, Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Tennesse - Hey Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #17
I'm NC born & bred but I'm staying! BelleCarolinaPeridot Nov 2012 #26
I truly thought Obama would take NC....must have been really disappointing to you Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #29
I thought Obama was going to win NC as well. The momentum was high with OFA NC BelleCarolinaPeridot Nov 2012 #31
This John2 Nov 2012 #19
Exactly, it is nothing more than a silly protest mechanism liberal N proud Nov 2012 #23
Don't like it in the US? Then start packing, and leave your passport at the gate. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #21
no, no i think they should allow these yahoos to present it to their state legislators newspeak Nov 2012 #37
And the response should be "No."...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #32
A simple "No" should he a suffixient answer. n/t RomneyLies Nov 2012 #33
I'm sure that Dr. Seuss, the great Democrat that he was, wouldn't mind this: catbyte Nov 2012 #34
My reply... Hugin Nov 2012 #35
Once again, No State has Petitioned to Secede. MineralMan Nov 2012 #38
Even if a state ever seceded from the US, it would face insurmountable problems. Jennicut Nov 2012 #39
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