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In reply to the discussion: Mr. President: Take Social Security and Medicare off the damned table in no uncertain terms. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)69. There is some massive he said she said in that article, but this is the best part:
The Republican version of reality goes, briefly, like this: Boehner and Obama shook hands on a far-reaching deal to rewrite the tax code, roll back the cost of entitlements and slash deficits. But then Obama, reacting to pressure from Democrats in Congress, panicked at the last minute and suddenly demanded that Republicans accede to hundreds of billions of dollars in additional tax revenue. A frustrated Boehner no longer believed he could trust the presidents word, and he walked away. Obama moved the goal posts, is the Republican mantra.
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On entitlements too they had moved closer to a final deal. The White House agreed to cut at least $250 billion from Medicare in the next 10 years and another $800 billion in the decade after that, in part by raising the eligibility age. The administration had endorsed another $110 billion or so in cuts to Medicaid and other health care programs, with $250 billion more in the second decade. And in a move certain to provoke rebellion in the Democratic ranks, Obama was willing to apply a new, less generous formula for calculating Social Security benefits, which would start in 2015. (The White House had rejected Boehners bid to raise the retirement age.) This wasnt quite enough for Boehner, nor was it as extensive as what the Gang of Six had proposed. But the speakers team didnt consider the differences to be insurmountable, assuming the two sides could also settle on a revenue number.
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On entitlements too they had moved closer to a final deal. The White House agreed to cut at least $250 billion from Medicare in the next 10 years and another $800 billion in the decade after that, in part by raising the eligibility age. The administration had endorsed another $110 billion or so in cuts to Medicaid and other health care programs, with $250 billion more in the second decade. And in a move certain to provoke rebellion in the Democratic ranks, Obama was willing to apply a new, less generous formula for calculating Social Security benefits, which would start in 2015. (The White House had rejected Boehners bid to raise the retirement age.) This wasnt quite enough for Boehner, nor was it as extensive as what the Gang of Six had proposed. But the speakers team didnt consider the differences to be insurmountable, assuming the two sides could also settle on a revenue number.
If the article is to be believed and taken at face value in its entirety, it appears the President rejected a proposal to raise the Social Security age.
Like I said, these discussions aren't so much about demanding the President protect Social Security as much as they are attempts to prove that he has no intention of doing so. That is why what he says will not matter to those pushing this angle. They'll simply parse his words and claim he still intends to cut the program. It will always be wait-and-see, just as it was during the President's first term.
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Mr. President: Take Social Security and Medicare off the damned table in no uncertain terms. [View all]
hootinholler
Nov 2012
OP
please post your links to obama claims he will veto any damages to SS and medicare. gracias! (that's
msongs
Nov 2012
#11
Not only that but they continually get hundreds of recs for that sort of tripe. n/t
hootinholler
Nov 2012
#55
I think Medicare "reform" is coming. From what I read, it IS in trouble financially.
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#16
Medicare's only in trouble because we choose to not meaningfully reform health care costs
MannyGoldstein
Nov 2012
#25
And Medicare is in trouble because it treats only the oldest, sickest people
Lydia Leftcoast
Nov 2012
#28
Don't know where you get your SS info. But that's not what Soc Sec Admin says.
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#46
It will start to run a deficit - but it will have $4 trillion in the bank
MannyGoldstein
Nov 2012
#47
If you put enough money in the bank to fully fund your child's college education
MannyGoldstein
Nov 2012
#50
Here's an acceptable reform for Medicare; Eliminate the ban on negotiating costs
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#64
That's right, we voted, now we are done. Except for sitting back and praising Pres Obama.
rhett o rick
Nov 2012
#30
Good grief. Telling the Pres that we dont want cuts to SS and Medicare ISNT TEARING HIM DOWN. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2012
#41
Long ago he said that Social Security and Medicare will need some adjusting for the future.
Kablooie
Nov 2012
#20
Beep.. This is Barack Obama's presidential voice mail, please leave a message at the tone.. Beep
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#24
"Tell the US that you will veto any reduction in Social Security or Medicare."
ProSense
Nov 2012
#32
Which pointedly doesn't say there are no plans for Social Security cuts.
MannyGoldstein
Nov 2012
#62
"I suspect that on Social Security, we've got a somewhat similar position", Obama said.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2012
#40
Either he was talking about Moderate Mitt or those are contradictory statements
ProSense
Nov 2012
#42
There is some massive he said she said in that article, but this is the best part:
ProSense
Nov 2012
#69
Three things; First, they did win in 2010 thanks in large part to this administration's
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#68
I'm not pissed at anything, I'm merely concerned that you appear incapable of
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#80
Are you really that far gone? You have been presented with an established fact from over a year ago.
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#86