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pampango

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21. Puerto Ricans are already US citizens. Why should they not become a state if they so desire? It's

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:47 PM

Nov 2012

clear to me that they do.

"I don't want some foreigner coming here with a billion bucks and buying the presidency." - Good that you specified 'foreigner'. If you had instead posted:

"I don't want some Black coming here with a billion bucks and buying the presidency" OR "I don't want some woman coming here with a billion bucks and buying the presidency" OR "I don't want some gay coming here with a billion bucks and buying the presidency", you might get a different reception here. Just goes to show that nativism is still acceptable to many on the left, while we have, thankfully, moved beyond racism, misogyny and homophobia.

Somehow I don't think that a "foreigner coming here with a billion bucks" will have any more luck than romney had with his billion bucks.

"All men (and now women) are created equal." All citizens - whether native born or naturalized - should have the same rights. There are not and should not be different classes of citizens.

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Now that it has nothing to do with current politics... [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2012 OP

There are times when I miss the "unrec" button (sigh) kickysnana Nov 2012 #1

The last thing a "sleeper" would do would be to seek the presidency. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #4

Rec. hay rick Nov 2012 #2

There was more than enough of that in post#1 Ken Burch Nov 2012 #3

NO!! Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #5

Sorry I disagree. I like it the way it is thank you. dem4ward Nov 2012 #6

This was actually suggested by Republicans... Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #7

I remember that. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #8

word GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #9

Nope. A nation's leader should be bred in the nation. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #10

So you want to dictate where the candidate's parents had sex? Brickbat Nov 2012 #43

Great idea though it will never happen. Way too much nativism in the US to expect that naturalized pampango Nov 2012 #11

Yeah ... WTF, right? 99Forever Nov 2012 #12

I said let naturalized citizens be president. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #13

Well golly gee Ken... 99Forever Nov 2012 #15

It is, actually, since allowing naturalized citizens to be president Ken Burch Nov 2012 #34

Well, in point of fact, no, they are not. That's why we have a special term for the former. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #36

That's your opinion. 99Forever Nov 2012 #37

Why do you have an issue with immigrants? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #40

Why do you have an issue with Americans.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #42

I have no issue at all with Americans who were born here(being one myself). Ken Burch Nov 2012 #44

You don't quite get what ... 99Forever Nov 2012 #48

Are you just satirizing anti-immigrant talking points? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #49

No.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #52

Except for the fact that my arguments aren't silly and don't deserve to be treated as such Ken Burch Nov 2012 #57

not just no, but hell no quinnox Nov 2012 #14

Why are you opposed to Puerto Rico statehood? n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #18

for a few reasons quinnox Nov 2012 #20

You do know, don't you ... surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #22

I know they aren't a state quinnox Nov 2012 #23

Surely being a non-state is more like ... surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #38

Hmmm DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #26

I don't see those as good reasons to deny statehood Sgent Nov 2012 #29

I find it rather odd. calico1 Nov 2012 #31

My thread wasn't anti-independence, it was pro-self determination. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #33

Thanks for answering. I would agree with you except for the fact that being a territory Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #39

I think Puerto Rican statehood, if it ever becomes a real issue, should be put to popular vote here. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #46

Puerto Ricans are already US citizens. Why should they not become a state if they so desire? It's pampango Nov 2012 #21

+1000 calico1 Nov 2012 #32

Why not?n/t calico1 Nov 2012 #30

As soon as we address the other 10,000 things that are more important. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #16

I didn't say this was more important than everything else, for the record. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #41

First, such an amendment would never be enacted. MineralMan Nov 2012 #17

That is the problem with all of these suggestions to amend the Constitution... Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #25

Yes. Amending the Constitution is very MineralMan Nov 2012 #27

It is because we are a large group of individuals, each with his or her own set issues. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #28

Discussing ideas is what we do on DU. LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #54

Make it like the dream act. gravity Nov 2012 #19

Or simply with a requirement that you live in the country say, at least fifteen years first. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #50

I would not support that. No need to change closeupready Nov 2012 #24

I'd wager a bet that it is decidedly NOT "time to start the process." WEIRD. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #35

Nnnnnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #45

where someone was born has just as little to do with loyalty as religion does liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #47

Arnold, is that you? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #51

What a jacked up priority in our present situation. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #53

If I really thought that any US ciitizen can grow up to be President, LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #55

Again, I never said this issue mattered more than all others...just wanted to get the ball rolling. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #59

And what's to prevent power hungry wealthy people Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #56

You'd have a residency requirement...say ten years or fifteen... Ken Burch Nov 2012 #58