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John2

(2,730 posts)
19. This
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:24 AM
Nov 2012

whole argument about secession is unConstitutional. You have to have a referendum voted on by the citizens of each state. Then the legislatures of each state would have to vote. A State like North Carolina wouldn't approve of secession if you go county by county and see which ones President Obama won. It would not pass in the counties where North Carolina have their largest cities because each county voted for President Obama.

Take the capitol city of Raleigh which lies in Wake County. President Obama won that county by some 50,000 votes which wasn't even close. Then you move to Mecklenberg County which has North Carolina's largest City of Charlotte which has over 700,000 people. President Obama won that county by over 100,000 votes. Charlotte is North Carolina's largest city and Raleigh is the second largest.

President Obama also won the counties that has Greensboro,Winston Salem,Durham,Asheville and Fayetteville by significant margins. None of those counties would vote to secede from the Union and all of them have a significant minority population in those cities.

Before the Old South seceded, they voted on a referendum by each county and the news papers in those states also supported secession. Every major news paper in North Carolina supported President Obama. So the notion that North Carolina would secede from the Union is stupid and would not be supported. North Carolina's State Supreme Court is also dominated by Democrats. North Carolina's Secretary of State is a Democrat also. The best thing for a citizen of North Carolina who wants to secede from the United States is to flee the country and denounce their citizenship. That would be more easier if that is what they want to accomplish which should be the President's answer.

Can't wait to see those responses. lol nt Live and Learn Nov 2012 #1
25000 is enough for a response? what percentage of the electorate is that? how patriotic is that ejpoeta Nov 2012 #2
that is the way they set up the website, it has nothing to do with the electorate Motown_Johnny Nov 2012 #3
It doesn't promise a review of the status of the state liberal N proud Nov 2012 #5
how about a one word response Motown_Johnny Nov 2012 #4
Exactly Ligyron Nov 2012 #8
I imagine the Presidents response will be more like this... liberal N proud Nov 2012 #9
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2012 #13
I was thinking "don't let the door hit you in the ass" Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #14
I'm not going to get my hopes up lunatica Nov 2012 #6
More than half the signatures on the two online petitions I saw in Georgia were people from out Iris Nov 2012 #7
Yea, my brother lives in Colorado and is pushing this crap on his facebook page liberal N proud Nov 2012 #10
how could he have had a high clearance job & not understand that? i think it's pretty spelled out HiPointDem Nov 2012 #20
He is so pissed off about the election, I don't think he cares at the moment liberal N proud Nov 2012 #27
That's an interesting angle I hadn't thought of - State employees in Georgia are required Iris Nov 2012 #36
And that's the point, it's an INTERNET petition, they're freeped like any other. Liberal In Texas Nov 2012 #28
Misleading: No STATES have said boo about secession. JHB Nov 2012 #11
Right and think, amazingly, Rick Perry has already spoken out against it. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #15
The signers are those that can't get over the devastating loss they suffered liberal N proud Nov 2012 #16
This was actually really cruel to do this to these people. My wingnut Fox-only watching inlaws Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #18
They were inFOXicated. JHB Nov 2012 #22
FOXicated can be the name for what these people are suffering. liberal N proud Nov 2012 #24
There's also FOXtipated... JHB Nov 2012 #30
Besides Ligyron Nov 2012 #12
And then they would expect foreign aid from the United States liberal N proud Nov 2012 #25
The Seven: Texas, Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Tennesse - Hey Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #17
I'm NC born & bred but I'm staying! BelleCarolinaPeridot Nov 2012 #26
I truly thought Obama would take NC....must have been really disappointing to you Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #29
I thought Obama was going to win NC as well. The momentum was high with OFA NC BelleCarolinaPeridot Nov 2012 #31
This John2 Nov 2012 #19
Exactly, it is nothing more than a silly protest mechanism liberal N proud Nov 2012 #23
Don't like it in the US? Then start packing, and leave your passport at the gate. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #21
no, no i think they should allow these yahoos to present it to their state legislators newspeak Nov 2012 #37
And the response should be "No."...nt SidDithers Nov 2012 #32
A simple "No" should he a suffixient answer. n/t RomneyLies Nov 2012 #33
I'm sure that Dr. Seuss, the great Democrat that he was, wouldn't mind this: catbyte Nov 2012 #34
My reply... Hugin Nov 2012 #35
Once again, No State has Petitioned to Secede. MineralMan Nov 2012 #38
Even if a state ever seceded from the US, it would face insurmountable problems. Jennicut Nov 2012 #39
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