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getagrip_already

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2. No conviction is needed, but that will mean little until it gets to scotus

Tue Aug 29, 2023, 03:37 PM

Aug 2023

Some secretaries of state will keep him off the ballot and be sued, working its way up, and some will refuse to remove him and be sued, working it's way up.

There will likely be differing opinions in different federal circuits, and scotus will take it up on an emergency basis.

One way or another, scotus will be forced to rule as soon as a sos removes him from a ballot. Of course, that's IF a sos removes him from a ballot, but there are 4 states discussing doing it in unison (2d, 2r).

Of course, that could backfire if scotus doesn't rule and states go there own way. Then it would be possible for a third party to win the electors in some states ensuring nobody gets to 270. Then the house decides which magat becomes potus.

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What's your opinion of the 14th Amendment solution for keeping Trump off the ballot? (poll) [View all] brooklynite Aug 2023 OP

Laws professors notwithstanding no Election official will take unilateral action absent a conviction brooklynite Aug 2023 #1

Never say never.... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #5

No conviction is needed, but that will mean little until it gets to scotus getagrip_already Aug 2023 #2

Challenging laws is the way case law is made bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #3

Schumer would take a vote in a heartbeat...... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #7

The Reconstruction Congress gave posterity a gift with A14 Sec 3 bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #11

I took a Pass PJMcK Aug 2023 #4

Christie is toxic.... it will be a dark horse getagrip_already Aug 2023 #10

Christie? Nominee... WarGamer Aug 2023 #18

I'm not a betting man! PJMcK Aug 2023 #19

Christie is at 5%... WarGamer Aug 2023 #22

All true PJMcK Aug 2023 #24

Christie Cream will be out before, or shortly after, Super Tuesday. LudwigPastorius Aug 2023 #33

If Trump is truly the weakest candidate, why remove him? former9thward Aug 2023 #6

He is still very dangerous..... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #8

This is why. Very frightening underpants Aug 2023 #14

A conviction for a relevant charge is needed Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #9

We did not see that with Griffin. former9thward Aug 2023 #20

Nevertheless, the judge didn't disqualify him until after conviction Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #26

I think we look terrible trying to keep people off ballots DVRacer Aug 2023 #12

It's a lot like cancer. If the disease threatens the patient's life, you do all you can and choke it bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #27

His disillusioned supporters Won't accept it it they keep him off by the 14th MiniMe Aug 2023 #13

Conviction necessary, no one will remove him. Elessar Zappa Aug 2023 #15

Worth a try: just don't count on it struggle4progress Aug 2023 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2023 #17

Not counting on 14th A to work in this case. We'll have to beat him at polls or scare GOPers Silent Type Aug 2023 #21

Haven't you forthrightly declared dpibel Aug 2023 #23

Are DUers only supposed to start polls on questions that they don't have opinions about? onenote Aug 2023 #29

Jeez, boss, I dunno dpibel Aug 2023 #30

I've expressed my opinion. I'm interested in the aggregate opinion of the community... brooklynite Aug 2023 #31

So a call out for support? dpibel Aug 2023 #34

No idea what you're talking about. brooklynite Aug 2023 #37

not gonna happen jcgoldie Aug 2023 #25

We deserve to have the supreme court take up the issue before the election ecstatic Aug 2023 #28

He IS running. He will be the nominee. He will be on the GE ballot in a majority of states, Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #32

It's not going to happen. Patterson Aug 2023 #35

It is all unprecedented. kentuck Aug 2023 #36

A conviction is needed Zeitghost Aug 2023 #38