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freshwest

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34. AND people recieving those benefits are not consumers, they are CITIZENS.

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:08 AM

Nov 2012

'Consumers' is a word used by wingnuts like the words 'parasites or moochers.'to separate the 'producers' from them.

It denies the equality of the human race and disrespects those who earned benefits for themselves or their families. As if their work and the taxes they paid in wasn't good enough.

But ask the 'producers' to pay taxes like those other people did, oh, no! A progressive tax took from the reciever of the benefits being discussed, and cost them proportionally as much or more, than the so-called 'producers.' What a con game.

There is no such thing as 'generational welfare' which they accuse the poor and minorities of getting, along with claiming they are 'stupid and lazy.' One could call those who inherited wealth they didn't earn 'generational moochers, lazy and stupid,' as many are dumber than posts.

Time to live up to the Founding Fathers' vision. Equality is a transcendental value, IMHO.

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"Earned Benefits" ARE NOT "Entitlement programs"! [View all] GoneOffShore Nov 2012 OP

good luck getting dems to stop parroting right wing propaganda like that nt msongs Nov 2012 #1

It starts small with the grassroots. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #3

Good luck on ceding language hijacks to the right. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #18

It's important and entirely possible. Matariki Nov 2012 #42

They're not entitlement programs zbdent Nov 2012 #2

Not sure what you're saying here. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #4

wow ... do I really have to say ... zbdent Nov 2012 #5

Well, I don't have a Ouija board implant and I've had three glasses of wine GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #6

sorry you read this zbdent Nov 2012 #8

It's okay. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #9

I sent my state rep bill Nelson Rocky888 Nov 2012 #7

Good for you. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #10

Never? You would be wrong, the word entitled is in the 1935 law 9 times FogerRox Nov 2012 #45

+1 freshwest Nov 2012 #39

Sigh, the word entitled is in the original SS law 9 times FogerRox Nov 2012 #11

Sigh.... GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #12

welfare benefits, please delete this OP. FogerRox Nov 2012 #14

WTF? Really? GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #19

SO guess how many times the word entitled is in SS disability law? FogerRox Nov 2012 #22

or democrats could just say, 'damn right they're entitlements; people paid into the system & are HiPointDem Nov 2012 #16

Right. Its like a contract. like car insurance FogerRox Nov 2012 #25

The problem isn't that the word "entitlements" is used. The problem is that the repigs have HiPointDem Nov 2012 #28

Thank you. AAO Nov 2012 #30

We shouldn't let Republicans define the word entitlement as a bad thing. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #13

That is the problem though. We have let them get away with making it a "bad thing". GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #15

I think the GOP is invading DU with sockpuppets FogerRox Nov 2012 #17

Are you calling me a sock puppet? GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #20

Entitlements are the problem. Blanks Nov 2012 #21

I understand what you are saying. Unfortunately, "entitlement" as a word has GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #23

Difference: she isn't entitled to that - I though, am entitled to SS & Medicare. AAO Nov 2012 #32

"felt she was entitled" means something different from "*is* entitled". republicans use HiPointDem Nov 2012 #33

Social Security really isn't an example of public investment IMHO. Blanks Nov 2012 #37

It's now 11PM my time. Any responses to this will now be answered after 5PM tomorrow. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #24

Except there is this; from a poster at Daily Kos Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2012 #26

I always like making my case with a legal foundation if available. FogerRox Nov 2012 #40

v v v v v v v v v Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #27

Thank you! It would appear that that "entitle" word has ticked off a lot of folks GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #49

No, I think the fact that the Rs have demonized the word is what's pissing us off, because those Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #52

I beg to differ. AAO Nov 2012 #29

Of course they're entitlement programs. We're entitled to those funds because pnwmom Nov 2012 #31

A Sentiment I agree with. FogerRox Nov 2012 #41

We don't have to, but too many of the morans out there have already bought into it. Their Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #53

AND people recieving those benefits are not consumers, they are CITIZENS. freshwest Nov 2012 #34

Look to the book of Exodus for 'generational welfare'... Blanks Nov 2012 #38

Yes. They are. You may misunderstand what "entitlement" means (nt) Recursion Nov 2012 #35

Thank you! I'm glad somebody finally mentioned this. Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #36

Regardless of what you call them Liberalynn Nov 2012 #43

Mistaken, but quite assertive in being so. cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #44

A Lovely repartee. A skilled concise bloodless evisceration. FogerRox Nov 2012 #47

I agree with GoneOffShore... sorta. :) justiceischeap Nov 2012 #46

What's wrong with calling it an entitlement program??? progressoid Nov 2012 #48

Government waste = corporate welfare texpatriot2004 Nov 2012 #50

You paid for Soc Security so you are "entitled" to it. Lex Nov 2012 #51