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stopdiggin

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43. that is one (fairly tiny) corner of the culture wars

Sun Jul 16, 2023, 01:45 PM

Jul 2023

but the 'wars' are being fought on fairly broad fronts.

(As in - does your religious beliefs give you the right to pass laws in the state legislature - to prohibit me receiving medical treatment that I require? Among others .. )

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"Your religion does not prohibit me from anything. It prohibits you." [View all] kpete Jul 2023 OP

Not fair I can only like this once... MiHale Jul 2023 #1

If religion prohibits the practitioner, wouldn't that mean a certain "Christian" baker... Progressive Lawyer Jul 2023 #38

Thought food... MiHale Jul 2023 #40

No, it means the practitioner is prohibited from marrying the same sex. The cake is irrelevant. Marcuse Jul 2023 #46

So if someone interprets, rightly or wrongly, their religion prohibits servicing certain people... Progressive Lawyer Jul 2023 #48

you are of course correct stopdiggin Jul 2023 #50

My judgmental opinion is no, it does not. Marcuse Jul 2023 #51

Do you mean the hypothetical, imaginary client who would never ask a bigot in the first place? icymist Jul 2023 #55

The prohibition is strictly on a personal basis, for actions that only impact Celerity Jul 2023 #64

I'm comfortable with that mike_c Jul 2023 #53

No. And here's how I get to that. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2023 #54

Such a good point Lemonwurst Jul 2023 #57

would that were true stopdiggin Jul 2023 #2

It is true in America. That A1 is so frequently broken doesn't make it false, just broken. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #23

repeating - would be nice if it was true stopdiggin Jul 2023 #41

That simple malaise Jul 2023 #3

Hear, hear!!! MayReasonRule Jul 2023 #4

Down goes Frazuh! GreenWave Jul 2023 #5

freedom of religion also implies freedom FROM religion Takket Jul 2023 #6

Without freedom from religion, there is no freedom of religion...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2023 #10

The problem is, many forms of Christianity don't play freedom of religion. paleotn Jul 2023 #11

Kind of like Islamic states SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #13

There isn't much difference. paleotn Jul 2023 #18

And if you look at all the religions that have popped up in the last 200 years SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #21

That's why SCOTUS is supposed to "have our back" on that issue Takket Jul 2023 #15

Pandora's box is wide open. Lonestarblue Jul 2023 #27

That's the line I've heard from the most truly devout. n/t Emrys Jul 2023 #7

Except for the fact that they're mandated to make the world evilgelical. paleotn Jul 2023 #8

When Jesus told his followers to spread his words throughout the lands, spike jones Jul 2023 #14

So much for being omniscient. paleotn Jul 2023 #20

Cato approves not fooled Jul 2023 #30

A historical 'Jesus' never told followers that. pandr32 Jul 2023 #31

Well Said Pandr32! MayReasonRule Jul 2023 #37

Thank you and a happy Sunday to you as well! pandr32 Jul 2023 #42

YES. Thank you very much for this post. Silver Gaia Jul 2023 #52

You are most welcome. pandr32 Jul 2023 #56

Written by the patriarchy to ensure mnhtnbb Jul 2023 #16

"They" who? ShazzieB Jul 2023 #26

"Religion is just mind control." -- George Carlin anciano Jul 2023 #9

+1 2naSalit Jul 2023 #17

Right on! Hugin Jul 2023 #12

religion markie Jul 2023 #19

oh wow.. i want this on a sticker BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2023 #22

I believe the issue is whether religion gives someone the right to refuse to serve you as a customer Martin68 Jul 2023 #24

It Does Not, Sir, Not Justly The Magistrate Jul 2023 #36

You seem have read a great deal in my post that was not there. You completely mischaracterized both Martin68 Jul 2023 #44

Not Arguing With You, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2023 #59

that is one (fairly tiny) corner of the culture wars stopdiggin Jul 2023 #43

I agree it is but one corner of a larger debate. I don't think religion should be used as an excuse Martin68 Jul 2023 #45

and I didn't see that in the OP posting stopdiggin Jul 2023 #49

So true The Jungle 1 Jul 2023 #25

Totally agree republianmushroom Jul 2023 #28

Hey you! It's my religion not yours... Layzeebeaver Jul 2023 #29

See: Freedom Caucus Sessuch Jul 2023 #32

Freedom of religion... For some more than others. keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #33

The point is rule by God's chosen. keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #34

growing up my school lunch NEVER had meat on friday dembotoz Jul 2023 #35

Fish sticks alternating every other week with... 3catwoman3 Jul 2023 #58

Blue laws still persist to this day Major Nikon Jul 2023 #63

When they yell for "freedom", they seem a bit confused about freedom from whom or what. Trust_Reality Jul 2023 #39

I think deep down many are envious of those that reject the strict code of conduct LiberalLovinLug Jul 2023 #47

if gawd is real, why does he require governments to force adherance? lindysalsagal Jul 2023 #60

I've never met a religious person... Effete Snob Jul 2023 #62

True, that. lindysalsagal Jul 2023 #65

It Seems Like The Arguments Take The Eye Off The Ball DallasNE Jul 2023 #61

Thank you for this comment. n/t ChazII Jul 2023 #66