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wnylib

(25,256 posts)
33. But that was not the point that Michelle was making, so
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 10:45 PM
Jun 2023

your "thanks" did not fit her message.

It is immoral to exclude people because of race, too. And that is what usually happens when affirmative action does not exist. You seem to have the misconception about affirmative action that many people have. It does not mean that unqualified people get admitted to college. It means that, among qualified people, those who are included in affirmative action get an additional 1 point to the point scale that colleges use to decide on admissions. That compensates for the fact that Blacks and other minorities are often overlooked or excluded in admissions.

Michelle mentions legacy admissions. Those are really immoral. So qualified Black students (and other students of all ethnicities and races) can be rejected for admission while a.less qualified student gets admitted just because one parent graduated from the college. If affirmative action is eliminated, then legacy admissions should also be eliminated.

Intelligent, capable students from poor families often go to substandard high schools that do not prepare them for college. Some colleges, like the private one that my husband attended, accept good students from inferior high schools and give them tutoring in the summer prior to the start of classes to bring them up to par. Those students were very successful at college and later. They had the ability but through no fault of their own were not prepared for college by their high schools. (My husband tutored those students.)

Systemic racism cuts off some people from opportunities. Affirmative action was designed to overcome those disadvantages.

In a perfect world, race and ethnicity would mot matter in jobs and college admission. But in a racist country, with racism built into the system, it matters very much.








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K&R...... Lovie777 Jun 2023 #1
K and R Diamond_Dog Jun 2023 #2
So well said, cilla4progress Jun 2023 #3
KnR Hekate Jun 2023 #4
K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2023 #5
A thoughtful and classy person as always. pandr32 Jun 2023 #6
K & R ancianita Jun 2023 #7
K&R 2naSalit Jun 2023 #8
And even after getting in and holding their own gratuitous Jun 2023 #9
Such a thoughtful and hopeful post! She always brings the light to us. ♥ CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2023 #10
Absolutely NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #11
K/R moondust Jun 2023 #12
I like it this posting. republianmushroom Jun 2023 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2023 #14
So, what are you thanking Michelle for? wnylib Jun 2023 #26
pointing out how she wondered if others thought she got in to college cause of affirmative action AlexSFCA Jun 2023 #31
But that was not the point that Michelle was making, so wnylib Jun 2023 #33
If racially America had a fair starting point I'd agree but we don't and the consequence to this ... uponit7771 Jun 2023 #40
So...FYI...race is constantly a factor in everything Artcatt Jun 2023 #41
But but but The Jungle 1 Jun 2023 #15
Ayep. Solomon Jun 2023 #32
I had to look up Ayep. The Jungle 1 Jun 2023 #38
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jun 2023 #16
K&R! burrowowl Jun 2023 #17
She's amazing as always SouthernDem4ever Jun 2023 #18
K&R Blue Owl Jun 2023 #19
Good news, everyone! Racism is over! /s Oneironaut Jun 2023 #20
I'm just now hearing about this, but this is a huge setback ecstatic Jun 2023 #21
The third paragraph is the main point Leith Jun 2023 #22
Well stated @Leith. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2023 #24
Thanks Leith Jun 2023 #25
Proud Americans tdot_steel Jun 2023 #23
K&R! Thanks! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #27
When I met my second husband, back in the 1970s, he was a grad student wnylib Jun 2023 #28
This! happy feet Jun 2023 #42
To make this happen, communities around the country wnylib Jun 2023 #43
If you think THAT'S good... dchill Jun 2023 #29
❤️ That woman is a national treasure. BComplex Jun 2023 #30
The Thurgood Marshall College Fund... RainCaster Jun 2023 #34
The colleges need to turbocharge affirmative action based on economic disadvantage. SunSeeker Jun 2023 #35
Anyone who opposes affirmative action on the grounds soldierant Jun 2023 #36
Those are some very worthy organizations. calimary Jun 2023 #37
She writes about her years at Princeton in her book Becoming. madaboutharry Jun 2023 #39
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