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In reply to the discussion: Repeat after me - benefit. Ben-e-fit. Benefit. Social Security is a BENEFIT. [View all]Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)27. Unless they are the ones getting it.
Then they really do feel entitled to it.
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Repeat after me - benefit. Ben-e-fit. Benefit. Social Security is a BENEFIT. [View all]
jillan
Nov 2012
OP
You're either a boomer with the largest ego I've ever seen, or you're a really poorly informed
jeff47
Nov 2012
#127
Why do my statements about the sheer volume of the numbers sound egotistical?
customerserviceguy
Nov 2012
#143
I saw a documentary that said just that, guy. The baby boomers caused an economy boon.
Honeycombe8
Nov 2012
#128
Except when the GOP wants the President to cut "entitlement" spending before they will agree to
jillan
Nov 2012
#3
Just what I was about to say. The Rs need to get a freakin' dictionary. But, face it,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#37
But I only consider him evil because what he sells is evil, but not the way he sells it.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#43
Maybe not, but it's not a progressive book. It is a marketing book based on the idea of the power of
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#54
I agree we need to re-brand, but only because that word has been demonized. If you paid for a pair
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#44
Exactly! Not sure what it says now because I am on a state retirement program in Colorado, but when
world wide wally
Nov 2012
#41
Fuck "austerity"! No socialization of government debt! Don't pay for Bush's wars and the bailouts!
Fire Walk With Me
Nov 2012
#6
we paid for it in good faith & we're entitled to it. i don't see how saying 'benefit' makes
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#8
I never miss a chance to tell people that SS has close to $3 trillion in bonds, and...
reformist2
Nov 2012
#10
I would even better if we admitted it is a WELFARE benefit and got rid of the "insurance" meme
Maplegrass
Nov 2012
#11
no, we don't all pay for welfare. welfare, food stamps etc. are paid through the income tax,
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#51
Willing to bet there are relatively few that don't pay income tax ever in their lifetime. nt
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#53
paying it 'ever in their lifetime' isn't paying for it. and yeah, there's a significant fraction of
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#57
Maybe, your problem is really with thinking people are leeches just because they
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#60
it ain't me throwing the poor under the bus, it's our own ruling class. No, my problem is with
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#63
seems to me you are very confused. there is no fucking social contract, seems you don't get it.
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#69
Nope, I am suggesting that you stick up for not only what yourself but those
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#70
there is no worker 'less fortunate than me' where social security is concerned. the social contract
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#72
Wow, really? You imagine yourself to be the least fortunate person in existence?
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#75
no, i mean all workers are on an equal footing where SS is concerned. you pay into the system
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#76
According the them. Their attempts to narrowly define the General Welfare Clause as constrained by
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#50
absolute hogwash. it's not a welfare benefit and it's survived 75 years intact because it's *not.*
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#17
and he was able to do so because the recipients hadn't paid for it, so no one cared.
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#23
How do you know they never paid for it? "Welfare" is a safety net program.
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#56
Welfare is funded through income taxes. Most workers pay little if any income tax: top 10% of
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#61
maybe you do. most people don't. i *expect* to collect on my social security payments, that's
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#67
Most of us will be at their mercy no matter what if we don't come together
Live and Learn
Nov 2012
#68
no, you didn't pay in as a child making minimum wage. jesus christ. you got a full refund.
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#71
you paid payroll taxes, including social security tax, and didn't get them back. no one gets them
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#74
why will you 'never be eligble to recieve a penny from it or medicare'...?
BlueMan Votes
Nov 2012
#89
Ladies and Gentlemen, Jeff47 has made the most cogent comment in this thread. This is an example
FogerRox
Nov 2012
#117
Unfortunately the pigs did to the word entitlement the same thing they did to liberal. And for that
jillan
Nov 2012
#86
But that's only if you accept their demonizing of the word. Something IS an entitlement because we
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#49
The semantics don't matter so long as people understand how the program works.
harmonicon
Nov 2012
#42
I think you're dead wrong about that. There really are such things as magic words.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#48
I'd be against it if I thought the education thing would work. Too many people just don't want a
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#97
paying for others is how you pay for yourself, and a significant percent of retirees continue to
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#55
Isn't Entitlement in the name of the law when it was first passed back in the 30s?
sammytko
Nov 2012
#88
It is an "Earned Entitlement". I bought it, I paid for it, I dam sure am entitled to it.
1-Old-Man
Nov 2012
#90
You infer the author has a lack of understanding when it comes to the definition of the word
FogerRox
Nov 2012
#119
SO the fact that entitled is in the 1935 law 9 times doersnt stop you from not thinking?
FogerRox
Nov 2012
#102
How about if democrats loudly make the case that it *is* a workers' entitlement, because workers
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#111
Wait, I pay for it????? Everytime a childfree conversation comes up on DU I'm told
RB TexLa
Nov 2012
#132