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46. I'm not sure. I think Gore maybe delays things but that's it.
Sat May 6, 2023, 06:45 PM
May 2023

9/11 is likely to still happen under Gore. I think he takes things a bit more seriously but beyond full-on grounding of all flights indefinitely, the terrorists probably still board the plane. Unless Gore radically overhauls the way the FBI and other departments handle terrorism, it's probably not enough. In reality, the FBI only became aware of Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, two of the hijackers, in August - mere weeks before the 9/11 attacks.

Gore maybe beefs up a level of security but a lot of what happened on 9/11 was baked into the cake. They were already in the country as early as 2000 and were flying (no pun intended) under the radar even during Clinton's administration.

I think 9/11 would have initially benefited Gore - but it also would have likely led to a larger-level of conspiracies on the right toward the events. We all know about LIHOP (Let it Happen on Purpose) and MIHOP (Made it Happen on Purpose) that came out of the left in those days after 9/11 and I think the right would have been much more severe in their conspiracies. We've seen how conspiratorial the right is now and they were always suspectable to it even back then (lots of crazy conspiracies about the Clintons too in the 90s). A devastating event like 9/11 would have absolutely brought a level of conspiracy theory like we hadn't seen (until COVID).

Because of that, a significant amount of Republicans don't get behind Gore. But he still sees a decent approval bump.

Gore probably invades Afghanistan but doesn't go to war with Iraq.

I'll be honest, I think the only reason Bush won reelection was because of Iraq. It was popular JUST enough to deliver him the presidency.

Bush barely was able to keep it together and a large part of that was due to economic decline that was masked by 9/11.

With no Iraq, which boosted Bush's numbers that had started to dip from his surge after 9/11, Gore probably sees low approval. The fact Democrats have been in power for twelve years now, and conditions not ideal, Republicans likely win in 2004.

We'd still probably see a recession - and War on Terror, tho different with Gore.

And now a Republican president in 2004. Maybe it's Bush again. Maybe McCain. Or maybe George Allen.

imagine this AL GORE [View all] reymega life May 2023 OP
I'm not sure claudette May 2023 #1
Huh? Dorian Gray May 2023 #2
I don't know how many times I thought of that, and he lost by 500 votes Walleye May 2023 #3
And as VP he presided over the count of electoral votes in Congress dflprincess May 2023 #9
That's right I remember that well, I had tears in my eyes Walleye May 2023 #36
yes, and the Congressional Black Caucus was there begging Gore, begging him. Grasswire2 May 2023 #49
Not just his gentlemanly nature but his love of country and desire for a smooth transition dflprincess May 2023 #50
Gore won ...he had more votes in Florida Farmer-Rick May 2023 #28
There were over 200,000 over votes not counted questionseverything May 2023 #45
Me too. nt Quixote1818 May 2023 #53
Al Gore lost nothing in 2000! GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #69
When he was robbed, the whole world was. BlueTsunami2018 May 2023 #4
Supreme Court appointments didn't happen until Bush's second term Polybius May 2023 #62
If things had kept humming along, he'd have won easier the second time. BlueTsunami2018 May 2023 #63
Stolen first term made 2nd term more possible GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #70
That is why I LOATHE Ralph Nader. nt jrthin May 2023 #5
Yesssss..... LakeArenal May 2023 #11
Yeah, but the Naderites will tell you we're not supposed to be angry with them. Aristus May 2023 #13
Same.🤬 we can do it May 2023 #22
Was a fan of his...Till THIS! Your LOATHE is a perfect emotional description electric_blue68 May 2023 #31
jrthin........ Upthevibe May 2023 #37
Wow, do I hear you. jrthin May 2023 #52
: ( ... electric_blue68 May 2023 #67
That is why I LOATHE Ralph Nader TO INFINITY !!!!!! Trueblue1968 May 2023 #38
He's not the only spoiler. I think Hillary would have made if but for Russian asset Jil Stein housecat May 2023 #39
Agreed. nt jrthin May 2023 #54
Could be : ( electric_blue68 May 2023 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore May 2023 #43
Agreed RocRizzo55 May 2023 #58
A few years later Nader was at a Cisco shareholders meeting complaining the stock dividend was too Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2023 #59
Last weeks story on CNN about Sandra Day O'Conner and the wrong Boomerproud May 2023 #6
O'Connor eventually admitted she voted the way she did dflprincess May 2023 #10
I saw that! pandr32 May 2023 #29
But, Al Gore was elected Bayard May 2023 #7
Al Gore's White House claim is much stronger GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #71
23 years later and there is a chance to correct that now MutantAndProud May 2023 #8
No 9/11, no wars in Afghanistan or Iraq, no ISIS, no Big Branch mine explosion (w put a coal man ... Botany May 2023 #12
All true Mblaze May 2023 #41
No way to know. LakeArenal May 2023 #14
The beginning was Mr.Bill May 2023 #20
Right you are. LakeArenal May 2023 #23
I agree with you, Mr. Bill. n/t Backseat Driver May 2023 #30
That SNL with Gore a few years after the presidency was stolen from him -- fierywoman May 2023 #15
Unfortunately Al Gore helped. brooklynite May 2023 #16
Gore had more votes in Florida Farmer-Rick May 2023 #32
And fewer votes in TN, KY, WV, LA, AR, MO, AZ, NH, OH... brooklynite May 2023 #55
Including his home state of Tennessee TexasBushwhacker May 2023 #40
Blame the pro bushthief media! GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #72
Just think how much further along we would be on climate change. hamsterjill May 2023 #17
"Oh, but he was too stiff and policy wonky"... llmart May 2023 #18
I agree about what could have been. lark2 May 2023 #19
don't worry china will achieve what we never could do this century reymega life May 2023 #21
Yup, If all the votes had actually been counted in Florida Farmer-Rick May 2023 #33
Well said! GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #73
I weep for what this country could've done and the damage prevented, if Al Gore had been rightfully LymphocyteLover May 2023 #24
A long-term campaign must be started to eliminate the electoral college Mysterian May 2023 #25
It's called the Interstate Compact JCMach1 May 2023 #61
Still need to eliminate the electoral college Mysterian May 2023 #64
If I can't get de jure, I will take de facto... Much harder to change JCMach1 May 2023 #66
No electoral college issue if all Florida votes were counted. GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #75
:) Do we need to imagine we also gave Democrats strong control of congress, Hortensis May 2023 #26
There would have been a Great Recession. roamer65 May 2023 #27
Solar panels on every government building, etc. OMGWTF May 2023 #34
BOTANY - That was Some (sobering) List! Most of that would not have happened... electric_blue68 May 2023 #35
Don't forget that under Clinton assault weapons were Botany May 2023 #47
Oh, I remember when Clinton's assault ban ended and was not renewed (🤬 Repugs)... electric_blue68 May 2023 #48
The GOP cout of 2000 RANDYWILDMAN May 2023 #42
I was at the big event where Gore was introducing Tom Harken as possibly his run- FailureToCommunicate May 2023 #44
I'm not sure. I think Gore maybe delays things but that's it. Beautiful Disaster May 2023 #46
My young adult son lost his faith in America that night. Grasswire2 May 2023 #51
I lost faith as well GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #74
I've often pondered the question... Pluvious May 2023 #56
There would have been no 9/11 RocRizzo55 May 2023 #57
So you're one of those ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #60
bushthief ignored multiple 9/11 warnings GoreWon2000 Sep 19 #76
We can't say for sure about the alternative EnergizedLib May 2023 #65
I always remember with a chill when W Bush was asked on election night if he was worried Midnight Writer Sep 19 #77
I seem to recall Saddam Hussein talking about keeping oil priced in dollars Turbineguy Sep 19 #78
Definitely believe we would be much better off, though not positive we would have avoided 9/11, great recession, etc. Silent Type Sep 19 #79
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