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60. The operative word is "if"

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:24 PM

Nov 2012

IF it had come down to Ohio Roved thought he had Secretary of State Husted poised to pull the ol' switcheroo. Other states came in for the President though and Ohio was no longer the linchpin that Rove thought it was going to be (My message to Rove: things change, Turd Blossom, it's not 2004 all over again).

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Romney would have won if it had all come down to Ohio - Harvey Wasserman [View all] flamingdem Nov 2012 OP

Bull! Rider3 Nov 2012 #1

Some are not yet ready to re-think their stand. Sheepshank Nov 2012 #2

Rather than be wrong :) Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #3

The expression "double down" WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #37

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #48

That and "meme." When did the word "theme" get replaced with "meme?" And why? Squinch Nov 2012 #57

Sure...what do you have in mind? Sheepshank Nov 2012 #64

Well, "double down" means WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #66

Utter Nonsense Coyotl Nov 2012 #34

Perhaps re-reading the post might help... Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #36

Thank you...I thought I was reading a different post than everyone else. n/t ejbr Nov 2012 #59

You're missing his point. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #42

The operative word is "if" brush Nov 2012 #60

Thanks for posting this important warning from Harvey Wasserman. John1956PA Nov 2012 #4

I think this needs to be our number one priority flamingdem Nov 2012 #6

I appreciate your comment on the thread about the Repub's attempt to split PA's electoral vote block John1956PA Nov 2012 #14

This is exactly right, but since we have to push past the incredulousness of people on the left flamingdem Nov 2012 #29

Problems (and fraud) SHOULD be fixed. But Obama hit 270 BEFORE Ohio was called. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #56

I can see that. How did anyone get suckered into going with those machines anyway? brewens Nov 2012 #58

Further proof that conspiracy theories never die RomneyLies Nov 2012 #5

What is BBV? flamingdem Nov 2012 #7

"Black Box Voting" the moniker put on this CT back after Kerry lost. nt RomneyLies Nov 2012 #9

Bingo! Such crapola from the CTists. stopbush Nov 2012 #10

As bad as Truthers, Birthers, poll unskewers, and moon landing deniers, IMO n/t RomneyLies Nov 2012 #12

Not to mention the JFK CTists. stopbush Nov 2012 #15

Agreed. Lee Harvey Oswald shared something with Charles Whitman RomneyLies Nov 2012 #17

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #18

+1, HOK. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #38

Indded Just Like They Were Made For Each Other HangOnKids Nov 2012 #43

I was almost afraid to note the similarity, it sounds so 'conspiratorial'. Nt. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #47

The deniers of BBV ? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #13

Rec. PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #23

I agree. There is a contingent on the left who likes to attack attempts to protect voting integrity flamingdem Nov 2012 #27

Maybe they're not as "left" as they'd wish us to believe? Doremus Nov 2012 #44

I don't think anyone denies the need for a paper audit trail. moriah Nov 2012 #31

2 elections actually. PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #33

Many of us came to DU after '04 for that very reason, P2P. Doremus Nov 2012 #45

I'm glad you had a good experience. Doremus Nov 2012 #46

As I said, most DUers (including yourself from this post) reject the idea.... moriah Nov 2012 #50

I was a poll worker in '04. Doremus Nov 2012 #61

They let campaigns even do the work out there? moriah Nov 2012 #63

You embarrass yourself equating those who want a verifiable vote flamingdem Nov 2012 #30

Yeah well if "Ifs" and "Buts" were candy and nuts... cherish44 Nov 2012 #8

didn't Nate just say we did not need Ohio and Florida (combined) this time? eom amborin Nov 2012 #11

no we did not. As soon as they called colorado and nevada, it was a done deal. sammytko Nov 2012 #16

The Patriots would have won the Super Bowl had they scored more points than the Giants! Johonny Nov 2012 #19

+1 ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #22

This is seriously stupid cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #20

And it's not difficult to separate the two flamingdem Nov 2012 #24

Once you have motive, opportunity, and know way to verify how does it matter? TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #62

Here's a good overview of what happened plus sources to check out flamingdem Nov 2012 #21

Ummm.....arithmetic? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #25

But it didn't. bigwillq Nov 2012 #26

But you better believe that next time flamingdem Nov 2012 #28

Nothing to see here Citizens! Please move along! bleever Nov 2012 #32

And if it all came down to California we'd have a Democratic House Retrograde Nov 2012 #35

+1. Thanks fd, and Freepress. nt. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #39

Very welcome flamingdem Nov 2012 #41

Whatever anyone thinks THERE MUST BE A PAPER BALLOT TRAIL jsmirman Nov 2012 #40

I think there's a real possibility that Ohio WAS rigged by the Republicans. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #49

But he didn't, so who gives a fuck? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #51

nope. florida results are official. ohio was nice but not needed tjwash Nov 2012 #52

Romney also could've won if more people would've voted for him. phleshdef Nov 2012 #53

There they go again. No, that's not the truth. Obama didn't NEED Ohio to win. CO brought it home. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #54

Such a bunch of cry babies. We won by over 3 million votes - TBF Nov 2012 #55

I totally agree with Howler Nov 2012 #65