David Frum is the only conservative worth listening to. He may not always be right (Reply #4)

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4. David Frum is the only conservative worth listening to. He may not always be right

but he thinks, and he is in touch with reality.

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170 replies	Author	Time	Post
None of panelists on Scarborough-not Joe-not David Gregory-not Chuck Todd, none dared to answer... [View all]	kpete	Nov 2012	OP
Of course not. nt	silvershadow	Nov 2012	#1
Yes, and they will continue to blithely ignore it. That's how they	enough	Nov 2012	#2
+1. eom	99 Percent Sure	Nov 2012	#22
Home Truths, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Nov 2012	#3
David Frum is the only conservative worth listening to. He may not always be right	spooky3	Nov 2012	#4
He easily quadrupled the collective IQ of the group by his participation.	reusrename	Nov 2012	#20
Yes, that was amazingly insightful. I hadn't thought of it in those ways exactly...	Honeycombe8	Nov 2012	#33
It has to be the best two minute expose on the subject.	reusrename	Nov 2012	#59
That's a fantastic video. Thanks for posting it. n/t	cui bono	Nov 2012	#82
A helluva video. I've got to check dis Louis Ludwig guy out. Thanks for the post.	ancianita	Nov 2012	#114
That's an extraordinary video. Thanks. eom	truth2power	Nov 2012	#139
Frum is the kind of Republican to fear...	Moostache	Nov 2012	#35
I fear the crazies more than the sane ones.	MNBrewer	Nov 2012	#60
This, I agree with. A smart Republican (like Frum, like Steve Schmidt)	Volaris	Nov 2012	#122
Schmidt, Frum and a few others seem to be	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#163
Wow, Volaris!	Rainngirl	Nov 2012	#168
He's still a neocon. That's why he endorsed Romney.	MissMarple	Nov 2012	#170
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#45
Frum and Susan Del Percio are the only republicans I can stand to listen to.	IL Lib	Nov 2012	#75
Agreed. I like Susan. And I'm warming up to Frum. eom	ChisolmTrailDem	Nov 2012	#169
wow! proud he's a fellow Lymie :=) n/t	laruemtt	Nov 2012	#145
They're still surprised that the majority of Americans voted in	TwilightGardener	Nov 2012	#5
Because they live a life of illusion.	jonthebru	Nov 2012	#39
very well said..."live a life of illusion" nt	Stuart G	Nov 2012	#138
Same Old GOP Double-Standard	GatorLarry	Nov 2012	#154
yes, he called them out, those still living in that bubble	newspeak	Nov 2012	#162
pleased to see some conservatives bucking the lemming parade	ibegurpard	Nov 2012	#6
I don't want that....	femrap	Nov 2012	#26
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#46
Scarborogh reiterated: "Conservatives have been lied to."	The Blue Flower	Nov 2012	#7
The Oligarchs have pulled the wool over the eyes of the conservatives.	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#38
perfect ?	kpete	Nov 2012	#41
Found on the net (I use it quite a bit in the message board wars) - "Hey tea party fanatics, google	progree	Nov 2012	#58
Dopey	ceeRoy	Nov 2012	#128
buh bye	Gabi Hayes	Nov 2012	#131
?? "buh bye" ?? - I think he was agreeing with my characterization of tea party fanatics, not	progree	Nov 2012	#149
yeah....now I look dopey forever. not unusual, that	Gabi Hayes	Nov 2012	#153
We told them, for years, that they're being lied to	MNBrewer	Nov 2012	#61
That's becasue Rush and Crew told them to. THAT'S Frum's point.	Volaris	Nov 2012	#123
Hilarious to watch Dead Intern sit there and pretend he wasn't	beac	Nov 2012	#88
The Asshole Is Dumb As A Bag Of Cat Shit	HangOnKids	Nov 2012	#93
My cats resent that They know their shit is smarter	catbyte	Nov 2012	#95
...heh heh heh ...	progressoid	Nov 2012	#160
ROFLMAO	catbyte	Nov 2012	#161
!!!	hifiguy	Nov 2012	#164
It would be AWESOME to find out he is one of Frum's "Named Names",	Volaris	Nov 2012	#125
That is unbelievable that Joe Scarborough, Chuch Todd, and	avebury	Nov 2012	#111
The utter disconnect is mind-boggling.	Ineeda	Nov 2012	#133
Frum's analysis is right on	BainsBane	Nov 2012	#8
My cousin's husband was still like that on Election night	Stagecoach	Nov 2012	#54
"conservative entertainment media complex"	Volaris	Nov 2012	#124
How about COMIC?	Doc Holliday	Nov 2012	#135
I am fully in support of your improvement suggestion. How do we schedule a committee meeting,	Volaris	Nov 2012	#142
sing it, David	Whisp	Nov 2012	#9
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#48
Full of BS, comical "conservative entertainment complex" who call themselves "news"	AnotherMother4Peace	Nov 2012	#10
I couldn't believe what I was hearing..	butterfly77	Nov 2012	#11
"Those who seem to despise half of America will never be trusted to govern any of it.	bloomington-lib	Nov 2012	#12
But he doesn't get to take the next step	TomClash	Nov 2012	#13
Everybody talking on TV is wearing a suit that costs more than two week's pay for the viewers...	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2012	#14
Yep, the Limbaughs, Hannitys, Levins, Coulters, Ingrahams, O'Reillys, and their ilk	rateyes	Nov 2012	#15
These people	femrap	Nov 2012	#28
Murdoch is not going to change...	sendero	Nov 2012	#156
He should	femrap	Nov 2012	#157
I thought that through the oughts, but they're just as relevant as ever.	valerief	Nov 2012	#51
"....because half the country contribute nothing to the national endeavor."	Skidmore	Nov 2012	#16
Re-read	FiveGoodMen	Nov 2012	#21
Of Course They Ignored It	Bigredhunk	Nov 2012	#17
I especially despise Chuck Toad. The slimy bastard is despicable.	olegramps	Nov 2012	#144
"Conservative entertainment complex":	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 2012	#18
yep	heaven05	Nov 2012	#19
I believe it's math that explains the influence the Conservation Entertainment Complex	AnotherMother4Peace	Nov 2012	#23
Why did he lose?	PD Turk	Nov 2012	#24
yeah I thought that segment was remarkable as well	Enrique	Nov 2012	#25
11:33 - "I won't soon forget the lupine smile"	reflection	Nov 2012	#27
It's very easy to exploit that type of thinking - which is what the CEC (Conservative Entertainment	AnotherMother4Peace	Nov 2012	#30
Evil and vile cynicism	emulatorloo	Nov 2012	#31
I recall that's what Herbert Hoover thought	burnsei sensei	Nov 2012	#44
To Joe's credit he did have David Frum repeat that last paragraph on how the Republican Party	Uncle Joe	Nov 2012	#29
But only after Halperin took over as discussion moderator and asked Frum to elaborate.	speedoo	Nov 2012	#73
K and R...nt...	Stuart G	Nov 2012	#32
I would have missed this exchange had you not posted it	reflection	Nov 2012	#34
"The Leaders Have No Space To Operate"	DallasNE	Nov 2012	#36
Bookmarking as no time to watch now	AllyCat	Nov 2012	#37
Tired of Overpaid Cable/Radio Pundits telling us what to think and believe	LovingA2andMI	Nov 2012	#40
Rove and Frum as Bialystock and Bloom-	stlsaxman	Nov 2012	#42
He spoke of the silenced.	burnsei sensei	Nov 2012	#43
Yep THIS ^^^^^^	LovingA2andMI	Nov 2012	#50
Didn't realize he was Canadian	eridani	Nov 2012	#117
I've never heard any conservative talk about poor people and the middle class like that before	liberal_at_heart	Nov 2012	#118
I hope none of them wake up to Frum.	Jennicut	Nov 2012	#47
The core value of the Republican Party is to make oodles of money for the 1%. Nothing else matters.	valerief	Nov 2012	#49
If America has caught on to this, it's Obama's crowning achievement.	harun	Nov 2012	#108
Hell of a segment....	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#52
Thank you kpete or posting this...	Liberal1975	Nov 2012	#53
I don't understand how they think they can get the Latino vote and their base in the same tent....	Walk away	Nov 2012	#64
I think the only way	Liberal1975	Nov 2012	#66
They tried using gay rights to split the African American vote away from the Democrats	MNBrewer	Nov 2012	#71
How could it?	Liberal1975	Nov 2012	#78
They won't do it, that's their christian fundamentalist base. It's too large a voting block.	Dont call me Shirley	Nov 2012	#80
I agree...though	Liberal1975	Nov 2012	#81
No...no...no...	DirtyDawg	Nov 2012	#55
This	John2	Nov 2012	#56
Good For Frum	colsohlibgal	Nov 2012	#57
Frum is going to be on Real Time with Bill Maher next Friday.	Son of Gob	Nov 2012	#62
ugh; I don't like Maher's format anymore... last night was just almost	Flaxbee	Nov 2012	#76
what a fascinating segment	Hamlette	Nov 2012	#63
"The people who made him wear cement shoes are blaming him for sinking"	Dorn	Nov 2012	#65
because of their tribalism?	BlancheSplanchnik	Nov 2012	#150
David Gregory is such a tool	LiberalLovinLug	Nov 2012	#67
RW rado is the main problem here. LIMBAUGH! is the name they dare not speak and that they can't	certainot	Nov 2012	#68
Their propaganda machine is biting them in the butt - the greedy pigs nt	AnotherMother4Peace	Nov 2012	#70
very simple; Romney is a cipher	creon	Nov 2012	#69
He gave the 1% a promise of mo' money. He took everyone else to go shit in	valerief	Nov 2012	#151
yes	creon	Nov 2012	#152
David Frum - rare Republican truth-teller	cilla4progress	Nov 2012	#72
David Brooks says similar things, which is also why he is derided as a "moderate"...	TomCADem	Nov 2012	#101
Frum concerns me for the following:	Tutonic	Nov 2012	#74
I found that curious as well. How, after all he said, could he think Romney would make a good pres?	cui bono	Nov 2012	#83
That's the thing, Frum thinks the Republicans have deviated from a more ideal course...	JHB	Nov 2012	#136
Poignant !	canichelouis	Nov 2012	#77
so many good points on this clip	southmost	Nov 2012	#79
K&R	DeSwiss	Nov 2012	#84
If anyone thinks that the GOP will magically transform itself they are delusional.	olegramps	Nov 2012	#147
Did Chuck Todd break his mirror?	cui bono	Nov 2012	#85
I know it is petty	PatSeg	Nov 2012	#96
I agree. But this time it really looked completely crooked,	cui bono	Nov 2012	#98
Guess it was worse than usual	PatSeg	Nov 2012	#107
I saw this and was amazed	Slit Skirt	Nov 2012	#86
Two thoughts	deutsey	Nov 2012	#87
f.u.c.k.i.n.g.a.	spanone	Nov 2012	#89
I saw this	PatSeg	Nov 2012	#90
Priceless.	MissMarple	Nov 2012	#91
That maybe the first shot in the Republican civil war	davidpdx	Nov 2012	#92
Keep in mind that this is not a retrospective dump from Frum.	ballaratocker	Nov 2012	#94
Yep-- they thoroughly ignored his point about the majority being disregarded.	Marr	Nov 2012	#97
Gore and Clinton were right. The corporate media is the BIGGEST threat to our democracy. nt	progressivebydesign	Nov 2012	#99
Kick and Rec. That is just wonderful.	Hekate	Nov 2012	#100
I knew there had to be	AlGoreRhythms	Nov 2012	#102
Andrea "Greenspan" Michell	MissNostalgia	Nov 2012	#103
She is pathetic.	FlaGranny	Nov 2012	#134
"Conservative entertainment complex"	shcrane71	Nov 2012	#104
Hey.... remember this? Oct 2008?	AlbertCat	Nov 2012	#105
Holy Shit Balls, someone on the CORPORATE media told the truth. Bravo FRUM	harun	Nov 2012	#106
I Want The Repugs To Remain Clueless and Crazy !	YOHABLO	Nov 2012	#109
I don't	SpartanDem	Nov 2012	#115
! saving	BlancheSplanchnik	Nov 2012	#110
An AWESOME 5 minutes of Truth	whathehell	Nov 2012	#112
Paul Ryan's job was to sell our lives. Shameful! He is ruined in politics. Thanks! for spanking him	patrice	Nov 2012	#113
Looks like they want to 'turn' on the millionnaires at FUX...	Amonester	Nov 2012	#116
Frum's indictment is powerful. It is beyond me why he endorsed Romney.	Faryn Balyncd	Nov 2012	#119
Bookmarked! Needs to be brought up again by Social Media..again and again..	Cha	Nov 2012	#120
Also that one: "do we spend a trillion dollars on welfare?"	Amonester	Nov 2012	#121
"Dared to answer?" What does that mean, or suggest?	elleng	Nov 2012	#126
wow, that was stunning.	krkaufman	Nov 2012	#127
Lindsey Graham	The Wizard	Nov 2012	#129
Fleeced, exploited & lied to by the conservative entertainment industry.	Historic NY	Nov 2012	#130
That struck me as well	libodem	Nov 2012	#140
All Too Rare	Andy Stanton	Nov 2012	#132
As if you're not part of the problem, Scar!	Jester Messiah	Nov 2012	#137
david gregory can always find a bright light for republicans, even in the darkest night	spanone	Nov 2012	#141
Frum: "Mitt Romney could have been a really good president". I really don't understand	truth2power	Nov 2012	#143
Conservative entertainment complex	AllyCat	Nov 2012	#146
AS I've been pointing out here, and over at the Orange Site:	Iggy	Nov 2012	#148
W understood NOTHING! BOTH elections were STOLEN for him!	benld74	Nov 2012	#155
Conservatives have been lied to. That was the basic premise over the Gravis affair.	grantcart	Nov 2012	#158
Day-um! Now that's good shit!	longship	Nov 2012	#159
I pretty much hate all these people.	jonthebru	Nov 2012	#165
does this mean they will finally kick Rush and FOX news to the curb?	liberal_at_heart	Nov 2012	#166
The question is, why is the activist/donor base so fricken gullible that they can be so easily	spicegal	Nov 2012	#167

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