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Horse with no Name

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26. It is the same need to punish those that are on public assistance

Reply to msanthrope (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:30 PM

Nov 2012

by forcing those that are in need to jump through random hoops.

Unfortunately, both of these situations have less than desired unintended consequences.

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Innocent people have been executed. Execution is more expensive than life in prison. [View all] redqueen Nov 2012 OP

Killing a person who is already in jail makes no sense. Vox Moi Nov 2012 #1

It's long past time. redqueen Nov 2012 #5

It is also not a deterrent. PA Democrat Nov 2012 #2

No, it's only about vengeance. redqueen Nov 2012 #6

Agree ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #3

There are some who are beyond any hope of rehabilitation... redqueen Nov 2012 #7

The system is seriously messed up ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #11

It's an industrial complex, fed in no small part by the drug war. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #15

Agreed 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #4

I completely agree, but it is a cultural thing here. Until we change ourselves, bloodthirsty revenge Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #8

I can't get my head around it. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #9

Kick ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #10

I think your arguments underestimate a societal need for vengeance. msanthrope Nov 2012 #12

The kind of society that "needs" vengeance is a backwards one. redqueen Nov 2012 #13

Welcome to America!! Look, I don't disagree with you that the elephant in the msanthrope Nov 2012 #18

Ah, then we agree. No more catering to this illusory "need"... what we really need redqueen Nov 2012 #21

LWOP aka "death in prison" should be vengeance enough (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #14

Should be, and that's why I think anti-dp advocates should do more msanthrope Nov 2012 #19

The topic *is* an emotional one ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #16

It is--therefore telling pro-DP folks they should not 'feel' a certain way is not, IMHO, an msanthrope Nov 2012 #22

Occasionally you'll find the victim's loved ones with that exact attitude ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #24

It is the same need to punish those that are on public assistance Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #26

I agree. If we are known by our deeds, then I don't want to be part of a killer country. nolabear Nov 2012 #17

When I look at the list of countries who do this... redqueen Nov 2012 #27

This edhopper Nov 2012 #20

We have started the ball rolling on health care, at least. redqueen Nov 2012 #28

Very true, and may I add.... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #23

An important point. redqueen Nov 2012 #29

I wrote a paper on this in college Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #25

I think those same results have been duplicated in many studies. redqueen Nov 2012 #30

That is enough for me - TBF Nov 2012 #31

Yeah, the drug war/prison industrial complex is a huge drain on society. nt redqueen Nov 2012 #32

It's silly - if we regulate/tax MJ and let folks use if for medicinal purposes TBF Nov 2012 #33

Yeah, at least that. redqueen Nov 2012 #34