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21. Don't take this as a defense of libertarians...

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:39 AM

Nov 2012

I think they're in their own level of hell.

A level of hell where ignorance of economics and politics convinces one that both parties are corrupt and only through the rejection of the two party system will the world be a happy place.

I was surprised at the hatred from the libertarian pages that one of my Facebook friends 'liked'. I expected full-blown conservatives to be disappointed, but I was surprised that the libertarians were so pissed.

The moronic libertarian 'movement' isn't all that old; you would figure that they would expect to be gaining momentum or followers or whatever. They behave more like they actually expected to win.

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Do not... DO NOT Defend Libertarians to me at Democratic Underground. [View all] onehandle Nov 2012 OP

You wouldn't think it needed to be said. FLSurfer Nov 2012 #1

Not sure...there IS such a thing politically as a LEFT-Libertatian... Volaris Nov 2012 #34

Sure is, because people are not binary objects, to be pigeon-holed for convenient hating of them. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #49

But no one is a progressive who believes in right wing economic policies, pnwmom Nov 2012 #94

+1 freshwest Nov 2012 #100

It is a mistake to think that people are all one thing and nothing of another. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #106

I don't think PEOPLE are all one thing and nothing of another. pnwmom Nov 2012 #151

I used to consider myself a Libertarian. And I did not support Rightist economic policy. ieoeja Nov 2012 #126

Yes, left on economic and political issues, laissez-faire on personal issues Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #66

How is that Libertarian? Orrex Nov 2012 #90

Libertarians are never left on economic and political issues. pnwmom Nov 2012 #99

"Not sure...there IS such a thing politically as a LEFT-Libertatian..." Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #84

I have to quibble with that Orrex Nov 2012 #153

Google "Political Compass". Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #155

Seen it. Talk to me after Gandhi does his own test. Orrex Nov 2012 #158

It fits. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #159

It should be sufficient to describe Gandhi as he was Orrex Nov 2012 #160

No. It's based on where his views fall on the political spectrum... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #161

It's propaganda, to give your own political self-label credibility. It's exploitive & self-serving Orrex Nov 2012 #164

On the political compass if you go too far to the left it's communism and to the right is fascism... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #165

I'm amazed that they were able to get all those people to take the online survey Orrex Nov 2012 #166

"I'd have thought that Stalin and Berlusconi would have been too busy." Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #167

Not true. It's just liberal wrapping paper covering right wing economics. pnwmom Nov 2012 #92

"Left libertarian" = Pretentious hipster liberal Scootaloo Nov 2012 #120

Left Libertarian opposes smoking bans, seat belt laws, etc. ieoeja Nov 2012 #127

So like a liberal, only obsessed with trivial shit Scootaloo Nov 2012 #128

There are libertarian/anarchist communists - TBF Nov 2012 #157

Legalize Pot... Rockyj Nov 2012 #113

"legalize pot" (end the failed War on Drugs) bvar22 Nov 2012 #118

...because isolating yourself in a self-reinforcing message bubble worked so well for the GOP. brooklynite Nov 2012 #2

exactly! NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #26

right wing libertarians are poisonous HankyDub Nov 2012 #86

to me, don't respond in kind beachbumbob Nov 2012 #3

Well said The Second Stone Nov 2012 #83

This is not new. lalalu Nov 2012 #4

"Both groups are big mouth charlatans pretending to be something they aren't."-- love it .. nt leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #8

The libertarian vote may have been the deciding factor in several races in NH. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #5

Oh, of course. I encourage all wingers to go third party. onehandle Nov 2012 #6

Yes, for a while the Gary Johnson vote in FL treestar Nov 2012 #107

+1 Liberalynn Nov 2012 #141

The Libertarian vote for President in FL pretty much matches Obama's margin. Barack_America Nov 2012 #80

No. Libertarians are not necessarily right wing fanatics. Buzz Clik Nov 2012 #7

You're thinking of Libertarianism. 'Libertarians' commonly have little to do with that. onehandle Nov 2012 #11

Libertarians are too ashamed to call themselves Republicans. redwitch Nov 2012 #13

Basically. :) nt Chorophyll Nov 2012 #29

Yep. That's pretty much it. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #47

Most libertarians I know are atheist republicans. sadbear Nov 2012 #57

That's my experience as well. n/t meeshrox Nov 2012 #98

+1000 nt abelenkpe Nov 2012 #43

I agree Johonny Nov 2012 #140

Agreed. I don't know why some of our self-admitted libertarian members are allowed to stay. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #9

libertarians are nothing more the hard core conservatives who lack a moral comapss..... bowens43 Nov 2012 #10

They are worse than anarchists because of the way they Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #12

LOL! Won't be too long before someone kicks his ass! Gman Nov 2012 #14

Sounds more like an internet whiner that would never say these things to someone's face Major Nikon Nov 2012 #65

Amen. beerandjesus Nov 2012 #93

+10,000 smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #136

PLUS zillion. Anyone not voting for the democrats are republicantealibertarians all one and the same graham4anything Nov 2012 #15

Libertarians: The "I got mine" party of mostly white people CreekDog Nov 2012 #16

You Forgot To Mention. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2012 #17

Exactly. n/t Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #124

is it ok if we agree with some of the policy positions quinnox Nov 2012 #18

I agree 53tammy Nov 2012 #25

Those sound like core liberal, Democratic positions to me. Chorophyll Nov 2012 #32

Bingo. nt Union Scribe Nov 2012 #46

Thank you! BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #50

If it was just about that, they'd be fine by me. HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #41

Why would you democrats don't want those things? abelenkpe Nov 2012 #45

They're not anti-war. sadbear Nov 2012 #60

Amen! Off the charts crazy! NCGardenGirl Nov 2012 #19

I feel that way about Republicans, too. When people say about certain pols, "But he's a good valerief Nov 2012 #20

Don't take this as a defense of libertarians... Blanks Nov 2012 #21

so respond to crazy partisanship with.....crazy intolerant partisanship? KurtNYC Nov 2012 #22

"Me-me-me" is the guiding principle of Libertarianism Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #23

good description. nt laundry_queen Nov 2012 #56

LOL Mr Dixon Nov 2012 #24

Their hatred knows no bounds... VPStoltz Nov 2012 #27

... DO NOT Defend Libertarians to me ... panzerfaust Nov 2012 #28

Haw-haw, the Libertarians are going to make themselves more unlikeable than they already are... FSogol Nov 2012 #30

he's a real nowhere man SemperEadem Nov 2012 #31

I'm willing to bet... 99Forever Nov 2012 #33

About the nicest thing I JoeyT Nov 2012 #35

Ya know, if this came across my transom, I think I'd be happy to see the south side politicat Nov 2012 #36

A looneytarian who won't speak to me? I don't see the down side here. Major Nikon Nov 2012 #37

Libertarians = Republicans who like to get high (or admit that they do anyway). n/t ET Awful Nov 2012 #38

= Democrats who hate to pay taxes. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #139

Libertarians live in magic bubble land. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #39

I imagine that most of the people he's cutting MineralMan Nov 2012 #40

Wrong. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #42

People are more or less individuals, some more, some less and like lots of fanatics someLibertarians patrice Nov 2012 #55

Key word about people is always "SOME". nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #72

Yes! & also SOMETIMES, because there is individual variation, within a range, some ranges with more patrice Nov 2012 #76

Yet, another Anal Retentive! Man, was Freud correct or was he correct! Hugin Nov 2012 #44

I know a parolee who was trying to make it, who is back inside now because Libertarians used him patrice Nov 2012 #48

I've always thought that a Libertarian rdmtimp Nov 2012 #169

How radical! He's unfriending Democrats on Facebook! Jim__ Nov 2012 #51

WRONG. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #108

Dennis Kucinich is a right wing fanantic? REALLY? TalkingDog Nov 2012 #52

Dennis Kucinich is not a Libertarian. n/t cui bono Nov 2012 #119

Provide ONE, just one fucking link that suggests that Dennis cali Nov 2012 #125

All Democrats are responsible for the stupidity of any given Democrat Fumesucker Nov 2012 #53

I think that's fair 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #162

Everyone I know is a RWer obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #54

Read the comments in the blog from Eric Dunderhead-O....scary, angry Mofo... Pachamama Nov 2012 #58

Look up... LP2K12 Nov 2012 #59

I (like the OP, I assume) was referring to the Libertarian Party, not left-libertarians Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #63

Is that a call, by implication, to pressure Democrats out in the work-place? business? or even patrice Nov 2012 #61

+1 - the libertarians I know are pro-national security to the point of paranoia. forestpath Nov 2012 #62

I know 3 Libertarians and they're all Mac users ... meegbear Nov 2012 #64

Wow, that's quite a tantrum Amaril Nov 2012 #67

Libertarians are righties, conservatives. ywcachieve Nov 2012 #68

Libertarians who feel Democracy is a threat to liberty Neon2012 Nov 2012 #69

I keep trying to figure out OnionPatch Nov 2012 #130

Just like Socialists, Anarchists, Liberals & Conservatives, so Libertarians are widely misunderstood Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #70

I agree liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #79

It's also, to some degree, a 2-way street. The ones I know completely misunderstand ANY others. nt patrice Nov 2012 #81

Love this line... BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #71

I dropped my RW friends off Facebook long ago... neeksgeek Nov 2012 #73

They think "Atlas Shrugged" Pab Sungenis Nov 2012 #74

I know a freelance Hemp activist, a fine, effective & dedicated person, who was disrespected & patrice Nov 2012 #75

to say libertarians are pro-national security to the point of paranoia 53tammy Nov 2012 #77

I think OP either willfully or in confusion conflates the Libertarian Party with "libertarianism". Romulox Nov 2012 #78

Thank you! This is NOT Libertarian Underground! nt MzShellG Nov 2012 #82

Wow, talk about a sore loser vlyons Nov 2012 #85

k/r. I have never met a Right-aligned Libertarian who wasn't an asshole Orrex Nov 2012 #87

And I have not met one who wasn't enraged at paying taxes that would go to those he didn't know. freshwest Nov 2012 #104

There is, sadly, a lot of that "I've got mine" thinking here @ DU Orrex Nov 2012 #112

It's discouraging. But even if their candidates don't get elected, they are destroying civil society freshwest Nov 2012 #115

More from the source article, as this isn't just one poster on a Facebook page spouting this: freshwest Nov 2012 #121

Thank you. For some odd reason, one of my best friends claims to be a libertarian. Atman Nov 2012 #88

This is misguided and prejudiced Genghis_Sean Nov 2012 #89

I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #91

Jeez what a Nazi, is he kidding with that crap? rivegauche Nov 2012 #95

Another nice, friendly, all-inclusive 'liberatarian republican' (hey, that's the name of that codjh9 Nov 2012 #96

When the Democratic Party fights the marijuana prohibition duhneece Nov 2012 #97

I understand exactly what they are about Major Nikon Nov 2012 #101

I think most DUers understand duhneece Nov 2012 #109

thank you liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #150

Shruggalo-to-English translation: Rob H. Nov 2012 #102

Big "L" Libertarian Party types here in the U.S. are either minarchists or anarcho-capitalists Norrin Radd Nov 2012 #103

How is that asshole a libertarian if he supports GOP on social issues which are anti-liberty???? themaguffin Nov 2012 #105

Well I certainly won't ismnotwasm Nov 2012 #110

During the W. years there was a HUGE influx of Repubs into Libertarianism... Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #111

He's a disgruntled former Ron Paul staffer... Neo-Hessian Nov 2012 #145

Ron Paul isn't racist? FRP. uppityperson Nov 2012 #146

Paul already has a well-documented history of racism Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #163

Yeah, and ladies if your idiot husband voted for Mitt Romney no more blowjobs or sex. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #114

The guy who wrote that needs psychiatric help lbrtbell Nov 2012 #116

Thank You. n/t librechik Nov 2012 #117

In my experience, libertarianism is generally an infantile right wing mental disorder. infidel dog Nov 2012 #122

LOL Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #123

Se, THIS kind of discussion is why I love it here... Volaris Nov 2012 #129

Meant to kick this earlier. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #131

Libertarians are nothing more than economic fascist standingtall Nov 2012 #132

and that makes what percentage of the population unworthy human beings??? Shilo Nov 2012 #133

they live in a dream world fascisthunter Nov 2012 #134

Glibertarians War Horse Nov 2012 #135

OMG!!! I've been..... "unfriended"....... lexx21 Nov 2012 #137

Some of these people really should check into psychotherapy Liberalynn Nov 2012 #142

Oh I know you aren't and I couldn't agree more. n/t lexx21 Nov 2012 #143

IMO, they should be at Libertarian Underground. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #138

Isn't that Freeperville? Kennah Nov 2012 #147

OH NOES!! Being unfriended by a LIBERTARIAN!! Say it isn't so!! n/t renie408 Nov 2012 #144

"DO NOT Defend Libertarians to me at Democratic Underground" -- okay orleans Nov 2012 #148

That doesn't work for me. I've got family, friends and business with those folks. DCKit Nov 2012 #149

"Those Democras and their... their... healthcare. EAAARGH!!1" ck4829 Nov 2012 #152

I wish I could rec this a few thousand more times. kick. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #154

This tirade was mentioned on NPR this morning. Neon2012 Nov 2012 #156

100th rec and a kick. TransitJohn Nov 2012 #168