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hunter

(38,761 posts)
12. "Those places" are selling something they don't have.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 03:11 PM
Jan 2023

That, and their abusive practices is what makes them criminal.

So long as our society, in general, believes that punishment is an effective form of behavioral modification we are fucked. It isn't.

The way to deal with teenagers who believe they know everything and can support themselves is to provide them with reasonably safe opportunities to prove it.

Our society should provide opportunities like that for children whose parents can't manage it.

As a parent once you've gotten yourself into a power struggle with your teen you've lost. If you feel you have to hire someone to kidnap your teen in the middle of the night, you've lost big.

Two of my siblings ran away from home at sixteen with highly dramatic exits, which is a family tradition, going back centuries as I discern. Fuck you mom and dad, what do you know? All four of my grandparents were like that. But channels of communication always remained open.

Myself, I put my parents through a worse hell, no channels of communication open, leaving them to assume I was taking care of myself which wasn't true in any way. I was learning how to be a feral human dumpster diving for food some days. But I'd long trained my parents, since I was first a psychotic teenager, not to ask whenever I showed up on their doorstep battered and bloody.

What made all the difference was they accepted me, simple food and shelter at first, especially when I wasn't talking.

When I was 12 years old I knew fucking everything, all the secrets of humanity and the universe. With puberty my mind went completely sideways and I didn't gather most of it back together until I was 25 at least.

I think all we humans are the same to some greater of lesser extent.

What? No tattoos and patches pinned on their clothes... Thomas Hurt Jan 2023 #1
Dealing With a Troubled Teen is Hard for Parents But This is Just F**king Crazy and Scary Indykatie Jan 2023 #2
In many of these cases I'd bet "troubled teen" might only mean... Silent3 Jan 2023 #15
THIS Withywindle Jan 2023 #24
The Parents RobinA Jan 2023 #3
The parents Rebl2 Jan 2023 #6
You are absolutely right Dorian Gray Jan 2023 #28
"Those places" are selling something they don't have. hunter Jan 2023 #12
I have 'PTSD just reading about being the parent of a difficult teen lostnfound Jan 2023 #26
Last Podcast on the Left Mad_Machine76 Jan 2023 #4
That was my first thought Bayard Jan 2023 #5
Thank you 🙂 dewsgirl Jan 2023 #8
Making everyone straight and white... hunter Jan 2023 #17
And leaving them unable Mad_Machine76 Jan 2023 #19
Paris Hilton Tree-Hugger Jan 2023 #7
I just heard about this Mad_Machine76 Jan 2023 #20
OMG, I'm watching it now. Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #25
'Youth Ministries' has become a convenient cover for doughy, douche-bearded schlubs Aristus Jan 2023 #9
Oh, There Are All Kinds RobinA Jan 2023 #29
Seven kids of his own? GenThePerservering Jan 2023 #10
Agape Boarding School will shut down this month after years of abuse allegations UpInArms Jan 2023 #11
And in Missouri, this shit has been completely unregulated since forever . . . . hatrack Jan 2023 #31
One of these groups actually set up a school here in Jamaica malaise Jan 2023 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jan 2023 #14
Some right-wing Christian organizations prey on families with troubled teens. Lonestarblue Jan 2023 #16
Horrifying Johnny2X2X Jan 2023 #18
Reminds me of when I grew up in Boston. friend of a friend Jan 2023 #21
These people don't just do this for money ToxMarz Jan 2023 #22
Reminds me of THE SEED "rehab" program where I grew up in Florida groundloop Jan 2023 #23
Is there a kind, FAIR religious school anywhere? Duppers Jan 2023 #27
Yes, But Not For RobinA Jan 2023 #30
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