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Brent Deck

(2 posts)
23. Not an expert
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:42 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks all for you comments.

My basic point is that those on both the far right and the far left seem to be taking the position that if global warming is caused by nature, it does not warrant any intervention, even if the result of inaction holds disastrous consequences for civilization. Each group appears willing to place adherence to its own cult’s religious dogma above the welfare of humanity. Rather than arguing over the cause of climate change, they should be discussing what to do about it. If carbon restriction is the best solution, then so be it.

Uppity: Thanks for correcting my spelling.

My second point is that our climate is complex, and I suspect unstable. That is, presuming carbon is a major culprit, one of the greatest causes of global warming may very well be.... global warming. The warmer it gets, for example, the more 24-hour CO2 comes from our vegetation and compost relative to the amount sinked by photosynthesis during daylight hours. Dunno how that all balances out, but I'm certain it is too complex for simple analysis. Complex enough, perhaps, to blur the distinction between cause and effect.

Pinto, etal: I'm not a climate scientist, but I am capable of simple arithmetic. If climate change gets to the point of impending doom, it is clear that waiting decades just to SLOW the rate of warming through conservation efforts will be unacceptable. Any timely solution will likely require more pollution, not less. Perhaps emitting nucleating particulates in the atmosphere will help. Maybe ammonia. Maybe we can wait for a volcanic eruption to come to our rescue. None of these are good choices.

I would hope that someone with better knowledge of the subject than I will chime in.

After the Gore/Bush debacle of 2000, Congress mandated electronic voting machines to make the voting process more "secure". Knowing that these very same morons will be making decisions regarding climate does not give me an easy feeling.

It's hard to resist being reactionary in times like these.

exactly.. i cant stand it when people say it is. DCBob Nov 2012 #1
You are right Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2012 #2
And yet I'm hopeful that this may finally move the gears jsmirman Nov 2012 #3
And of course, how much it will cost NOT to address the issue... Amonester Nov 2012 #14
I did just hear Bloomberg say he doesn't believe in dykes and sea gates and the like jsmirman Nov 2012 #17
Excellent. Thank you! K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #4
Thanks - it was a late night screed written during storm-related sleeplessness jsmirman Nov 2012 #7
Well said malaise Nov 2012 #5
Thanks, malaise jsmirman Nov 2012 #9
I disagree. Speck Tater Nov 2012 #6
I think you're missing my point jsmirman Nov 2012 #8
I agree with you: "their propaganda needs to be tossed in the dustbin" Speck Tater Nov 2012 #10
And the success of that political process can only happen when their nonsense jsmirman Nov 2012 #11
The human species is on death watch because of global warming. MoonRiver Nov 2012 #12
That nails it - are we going to stand for a "Pro Human Extinction" party any longer? Enough! jsmirman Nov 2012 #15
Thanks, J.S. This is indeed the truth, no doubt about it. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #13
I just hope the message is starting to come through jsmirman Nov 2012 #16
Climate change has been politicized by both the right and left. Brent Deck Nov 2012 #18
Not quite right. If you are hurtling down the road because your foot is on the accelerator, it would uppityperson Nov 2012 #20
What are your suggestions? pinto Nov 2012 #21
So let me see if I understand your position... bluesbassman Nov 2012 #22
Not an expert Brent Deck Nov 2012 #23
What spelling did I correct? Did you even bother to read my post? Figuring out causes and solutions uppityperson Nov 2012 #27
You used the correct "hurtling" in your subject line, he used "hurdling". bluesbassman Nov 2012 #28
Huh, teach me to be anal about my spelllling uppityperson Nov 2012 #31
Hear, hear. Glad to see this point arising from Sandy's floodwaters. DirkGently Nov 2012 #19
I think that all that can be done is people try to prepare to adapt. Kaleva Nov 2012 #24
tell that to the republican party spanone Nov 2012 #25
too late to stop it, we have to focus on mitigation now 0rganism Nov 2012 #26
Sorry, I'm not "putting down my sword". Zoeisright Nov 2012 #29
Not a put down my sword type. Post is a suggestion to cut off their heads. jsmirman Nov 2012 #33
And the above is my meaning regarding putting down the swords. jsmirman Nov 2012 #34
In principle I agree. However, the only solutions are political. joshcryer Nov 2012 #30
It is time for people to wake up and smell the coffee on this. Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2012 #32
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