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In reply to the discussion: EVERYONE knows that a fertilized egg is not a person. And neither is a full term fetus a collection [View all]Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)9. The word is "fetus", not "embryo".
There's zygote (fertilized egg), and after it's multicellular but all organs are not fully developed it's an embryo for the first 8 weeks. From 9 weeks to 40 weeks (term) or delivery, it's a fetus. Generally considered viable outside the womb in some cases at 24 weeks.
B.A. in Biology here.
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TPaine7
Nov 2012
OP
There is no such thing as a full term embryo. There is no such organization that advocates for
Luminous Animal
Nov 2012
#10
Show me the part of the OP that says anything about an organization that advocates for aborting
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#37
I have no argument with your points. Remember, I said the American consensus is basically right.
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#5
Can you please point out these people that believe life starts at birth and would have no problem
Luminous Animal
Nov 2012
#8
If they say that a fetus is the moral equivalent of a foreskin until birth and first breath
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#25
Where oh where do they these outliers on the internet advocate aborting a 9 month old fetus?
Luminous Animal
Nov 2012
#16
If you think it through, the logic of both cited sources says a lot about late term abortions.
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#24
The tiny extreme is a foil in the arguments of the huge extreme. But I know they are relatively tiny
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#26
There are no extremists on the pro-choice side to take on. They exist as much as those who believe
Luminous Animal
Nov 2012
#18
For this to make sense, you'd have to cite the extreme that advocates for aborting a full term fetus
Luminous Animal
Nov 2012
#7
Thanks. I should have looked up my terms. I was trying to avoid the word "baby."
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#14
And you need to look past minutia. When people focus extreme amounts of attention on
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#32
I take it you are "educated," but you can't see that my point had nothing to do with my mistake in
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#44
I did not insult your education or you. (Unless, of course you have multiple DU identities.)
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#63
You claim there are two extremes, but I've only seen one of them in the real world
fishwax
Nov 2012
#22
I know you didn't say they were equivalent in strength, but the value of the comparison depends,
fishwax
Nov 2012
#28
I agree that saying "a fetus is not a person" is not the same as saying "a fetus is just a
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#40
The positions are comparable in other ways, in that they are both religiious positions
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#55
Sure. Women are running around pregnant for 8 mos & then aborting for the hell of it. All the time.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2012
#34
Yes, the OP talks about women running around for 8 months and then aborting the fetus for fun.
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#43
That presumption, or one like it, is the only way I can imagine anyone concocting the goofy example
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2012
#47
So essentially, you can't think of a response to what I just said, so you need to put words in my
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2012
#51
"Needs restriction" means "the situation as it currently is has some problem".
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2012
#54
I agree that late term abortions are rare, as you say, and tend to be medically indicated. n/t
TPaine7
Nov 2012
#49
Nobody aborts a third trimester fetus unless the mother's life or health is seriously in danger
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2012
#60