It isn't necessarily Trump, himself that did this captivation... (Reply #44)

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Pluvious (3,565 posts)

44. It isn't necessarily Trump, himself that did this captivation...

It’s from many sources of exposure to influence and conditioning;
warping, shaping, grooming, radicalizing. Call it what you will.

It comes from TV, media, peers, and family.

There is a cancer in our culture, I despair of any cure.

If you’ve not watched it yet, you might find some new knowledge and
understanding from Jen Senko’s documentary, the Brainwashing of My Dad.

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95 replies	Author	Time	Post
About a white rural voter... [View all]	orangecrush	Aug 2022	OP
My heart goes out to the family. It seems like when something like this hits a	SWBTATTReg	Aug 2022	#1
Thanks. Oddly	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#4
Really. Perhaps there's a crack there w/ him liking other black and latino artists? Little steps,	SWBTATTReg	Aug 2022	#5
Thank you!	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#8
I think you found the way. It's not by winning arguments, but by showing your compassion.	TheRickles	Aug 2022	#30
Stop this nonsense, this guy would turn you in if Trump had become dictator.	Jon King	Aug 2022	#36
Many MAGAts are as you describe, but not all. It's too soon to say how this fellow will turn out.	TheRickles	Aug 2022	#40
Guess we have to disagree, anyone that easily manipulated is dangerous.	Jon King	Aug 2022	#41
This. nt	Tommymac	Aug 2022	#70
I wish I knew.	Elessar Zappa	Aug 2022	#2
That makes two of us	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#6
This Breaks My Heart	leftieNanner	Aug 2022	#3
Thanks, Nanner.	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#7
This is so mind-boggling.	Demobrat	Aug 2022	#26
This message was self-deleted by its author	Demobrat	Aug 2022	#27
I also grew up in a town which is now red.	Tetrachloride	Aug 2022	#9
Recommended.	H2O Man	Aug 2022	#10
Most welcome.	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#54
Community events: flea market, library fund raising,	Tetrachloride	Aug 2022	#11
I live in a rural red county in FL	mcar	Aug 2022	#12
I am not too sure that he would show you they same compassion and grace	maxrandb	Aug 2022	#13
Trump has conned his way into their hearts and minds like Prof. Harold Hill	andym	Aug 2022	#14
It was so sad to see all those children killed when the tractor flipped in SC-PA.	JoeOtterbein	Aug 2022	#15
Heart breaking story on several levels. Thanks for	KPN	Aug 2022	#16
Without a negligent and complicit media he could not fool so many people.	Pepsidog	Aug 2022	#17
There wasn't any 'fooling' Trump Voters	Bread and Circuses	Aug 2022	#18
I agree. He showed the world who he was multiple times.	ecstatic	Aug 2022	#74
Condolenses to the grandfather ...	aggiesal	Aug 2022	#19
And yet, at least in MI, the great majority of TFG voters live in urban or mostly urban counties	Kaleva	Aug 2022	#47
No it wouldn't stop, because the right-wing Christian churches spread it too.	Mariana	Aug 2022	#49
Exactly right	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#55
This...and it's been going on since reagan...and probably before.	Tikki	Aug 2022	#80
They are all angry or afraid of something. Trump and his ilk tap into those emotions.	Joinfortmill	Aug 2022	#20
I suspect the answer is right there in your anecdote:	peppertree	Aug 2022	#21
There wasn't any 'fooling' Trump Voters	Bread and Circuses	Aug 2022	#22
It's the rural tribe.	multigraincracker	Aug 2022	#23
Re: Hillary	llmart	Aug 2022	#83
Both things can be true at the same time. A loving grandfather and bigoted grandfather	tulipsandroses	Aug 2022	#24
As the old saying goes. Even Hitler loved his dogs.	paleotn	Aug 2022	#29
Excellent post.	llmart	Aug 2022	#85
Why do the Democrats want to take my Social Security	PXR-5	Aug 2022	#25
Indeed!! Faux Lies ...	Duppers	Aug 2022	#50
The world is changing. Scares the crap out of them.	paleotn	Aug 2022	#28
So he loved his gradson and plays guitar, and likely hates blacks, gays, jews, etc.	Jon King	Aug 2022	#31
Changing Trump voters minds	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#56
Democrats wasted a hell of a lot of years	Warpy	Aug 2022	#32
People with big hearts can still be duped, this is not the democrats problem, stupidity is	Cozmo	Aug 2022	#33
Self-Righteousness vs Alternative Facts	czarjak	Aug 2022	#34
oh it's pretty common.	drray23	Aug 2022	#35
Exactly, and Trump could convince them you are not truly part of their tribe.	Jon King	Aug 2022	#39
The same way opioid drug companies target them, and other substances like alcohol	IronLionZion	Aug 2022	#37
If you people think your Trump voting family/friends are "nice", you are wrong.	Jon King	Aug 2022	#38
As a news editor I cover rural areas, and understand why some are dismayed with Dems.	Liberty Belle	Aug 2022	#42
This is interesting. Would like to Google more about it.	MarcA	Aug 2022	#43
+1	sammythecat	Aug 2022	#45
You obviously don't live in Iowa or another	SharonClark	Aug 2022	#52
Aren't districts divided by population in Iowa?	Kaleva	Aug 2022	#62
GREAT POST	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#58
"a general disrespect of rural residents." Where? Town halls don't change anything.	betsuni	Aug 2022	#59
All Good Points But	modrepub	Aug 2022	#61
Under Trump White FArmers recieved most Financial Assistance. Biden admin tried to fix this	JI7	Aug 2022	#68
It isn't necessarily Trump, himself that did this captivation...	Pluvious	Aug 2022	#44
"How does a con man like Trump manage to fool an otherwise intelligent, big hearted man like this?"	Slammer	Aug 2022	#46
Sounds like he may be a guy	kacekwl	Aug 2022	#48
i have 1 trumpkin in my life. ex bf.	mopinko	Aug 2022	#51
Thank you	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#57
Maybe he doesn't like black people or gay people	JI7	Aug 2022	#53
If they know them personally, it's okay.	betsuni	Aug 2022	#64
Cognitive dissonance.	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#73
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Aug 2022	#60
"I dream of a day when my party finally reaches the hearts of these people ... "	betsuni	Aug 2022	#63
This message was self-deleted by its author	JI7	Aug 2022	#65
My dad was dean of a major university humanities department	Pelosi Pepperment	Aug 2022	#67
I deleted my comment that you replied to because I meant to post it somewhere else	JI7	Aug 2022	#69
A friend came to visit me here in Wisconsin	milestogo	Aug 2022	#66
Sorry, I am out of compassion for anyone who voted for TFG once, much less twice.	Tommymac	Aug 2022	#71
I understand completely	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#72
This man's definition of "us" is much smaller than yours	Random Boomer	Aug 2022	#75
Because he is a bigot.	Master Jah-Remi	Aug 2022	#76
I will still work on bringing people together	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#79
This message was self-deleted by its author	Demsrule86	Aug 2022	#81
Campaign Finance BS leads to this	IbogaProject	Aug 2022	#77
The Outrage Machine gins up emotions that trump reason. . . . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Aug 2022	#78
He's associated with Republicans his whole life. It's all he's ever known.	jaxexpat	Aug 2022	#82
They get brainwashed listening to rightwing TV. nt	leftyladyfrommo	Aug 2022	#84
And a.m. radio	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#86
They brainwash themselves. Most cults have brainwashing	leftyladyfrommo	Aug 2022	#88
It is true	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#92
Many of my closest life friends are on the right.	sellitman	Aug 2022	#87
Same here	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#95
For all of you who say, "they're such nice people, they seem so kind, how can they	Wingus Dingus	Aug 2022	#89
A lot of racist are really great people to the ones they care about	Heather MC	Aug 2022	#90
Yep, dig deep enough or catch them on a bad day, you'll see the Trumper come out.	Wingus Dingus	Aug 2022	#91
The 13 year old kid	orangecrush	Aug 2022	#93
..	Demovictory9	Aug 2022	#94

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