Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Kaleva

(36,146 posts)
8. I understand that some place a premium on material things over a life.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 02:05 PM
Aug 2022

Your comment:

"I will never understand people who leap the the defense of criminals and blame the victim for not standing aside."

What training program did you attend that teaches it's best to confront baddies?

Apperently, the car and contents of same was worth the life of a 13 y/o. Kaleva Aug 2022 #1
No doubt she was defending herself from armed robbers, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #3
How dare she want them to stop breaking into her car ripcord Aug 2022 #4
Myself, I'm not faulting the woman for doing what she had to do, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #6
She didn't have to confront. She could have retreated. Kaleva Aug 2022 #9
I agree, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #11
The article isn't clear as to which thug had the gun Kaleva Aug 2022 #12
For me, it doesn't matter who had the gun, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #14
It wouldn't be with her for the rest of her life if she had retreated Kaleva Aug 2022 #16
I already agreed with you, but that's a moot point now, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #17
We don't know the ages of all of them. Kaleva Aug 2022 #25
.... MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #27
But thanks I really want to know who the pacifists are alphafemale Aug 2022 #51
At least she has a life. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #31
She went to confront at least 4 people attempting to break in to her parked car Kaleva Aug 2022 #32
Seriosuly? ForgedCrank Aug 2022 #54
The group saw her Mz Pip Aug 2022 #59
It's both ForgedCrank Aug 2022 #62
Natural predators hunt down kill things that run. alphafemale Aug 2022 #47
The rest of her life might have been measured in minutes with a violent rape. alphafemale Aug 2022 #48
It may turn out that the 13 y/o was unarmed Kaleva Aug 2022 #19
It doesn't matter if he was the one armed, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #24
We are using the same story to make two, separate points. Kaleva Aug 2022 #29
Aye Matey, we've reached an accord. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #30
That's her story anyway. Were there any witnesses? MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #61
That is a good question, I haven't read anything about witnesses, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #63
But you seem to believe it. MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #64
What? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #66
Sorry. MrsCoffee Aug 2022 #67
No problem at all. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #68
I wondered why someone would draw there gun when a baddie had their gun aimed at them. Kaleva Aug 2022 #81
A bullet's speed is measured in Zeitghost Aug 2022 #50
I understand that some place a premium on material things over a life. Kaleva Aug 2022 #8
Seems it was the thieves who cared more about material possessions than human life ripcord Aug 2022 #70
Everybody involved cared more about material things then life. Kaleva Aug 2022 #74
The woman cared about her life ripcord Aug 2022 #75
Again, what reputable self defense course teaches one to do that? Kaleva Aug 2022 #79
People are not going to be passive victims just to please you ripcord Aug 2022 #89
I am sure she appreciates your deciding she did not have a right to defend herself. alphafemale Aug 2022 #13
She was defending her car. Kaleva Aug 2022 #15
You are so morally superior to much of humanity alphafemale Aug 2022 #39
I take training and proper use of a gun seriously Kaleva Aug 2022 #43
"Guns are dangerous" ForgedCrank Aug 2022 #57
It happen to all who rely on a gun Kaleva Aug 2022 #72
They didn't point a gun at the car, they pointed a gun at HER. NutmegYankee Aug 2022 #40
Why did they point the gun at her? Kaleva Aug 2022 #44
You don't need a course, it's the default human response. NutmegYankee Aug 2022 #46
No, she most certainly ForgedCrank Aug 2022 #55
The article doesn't say the 13 y/o had a gun Kaleva Aug 2022 #73
I'm not sure ForgedCrank Aug 2022 #76
Everybody who has a gun for self defense ought to have training Kaleva Aug 2022 #80
He pointed a gun at her treestar Aug 2022 #52
13 year olds are already gang members here. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #2
And mix that in with the easy availability of guns MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #5
A 13 year old boy in Manitowoc was caught with a gun. Archae Aug 2022 #36
Thank you, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #37
The hood is full of stolen guns. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #42
If I had to guess, ForgedCrank Aug 2022 #58
Very true, some of the scariest people in Africa were the child soldiers in rebel groups EX500rider Aug 2022 #65
Post removed Post removed Aug 2022 #83
Unless you've killled someone, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #86
oh oh oh alphafemale Aug 2022 #87
Yeah?? MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #88
A gun in the hand of a 13 year old is just as deadly as in the hand of a 31 year old. alphafemale Aug 2022 #41
The situation in the hood in KCMO hasn't really changed leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #69
I am not going to ask for a birth certificate before I protect myself alphafemale Aug 2022 #71
There was an 11 year old involved in a carjacking earlier this summer in Chicago. Ace Rothstein Aug 2022 #7
This is just beyond the pale, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #10
I understand what you're saying Bayard Aug 2022 #18
Article doesn't say the 13 y/o had the gun Kaleva Aug 2022 #21
Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #22
Restricting gun access is quickly becoming impossible Amishman Aug 2022 #26
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #28
I am of the opinion ForgedCrank Aug 2022 #60
I'm sure it happens. Still not worth all the dead school children. Iggo Aug 2022 #20
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #23
The details are thin, but I support... SYFROYH Aug 2022 #33
I'm unaware of any self defense course that teaches that. Kaleva Aug 2022 #34
Those are two separate things. SYFROYH Aug 2022 #38
That's why training is so important. Kaleva Aug 2022 #45
Well in reality if she would not have been born in the first place radicalleft Aug 2022 #82
You have every right to treat the gun issue as a joke Kaleva Aug 2022 #84
What is a joke radicalleft Aug 2022 #85
What has your training with guns taught you? Kaleva Aug 2022 #91
Did you notice my avatar? radicalleft Aug 2022 #93
I think we agree that one purpose of training... Kaleva Aug 2022 #95
I support self defense also and her right to defend herself, I never said otherwise, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #35
I agree that kids have no reason to have a gun on the streets ripcord Aug 2022 #49
This is a perfect example of the easy availability of firearms. 48656c6c6f20 Aug 2022 #53
Yeah, pretty much. nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #56
13 year old shot intelpug Aug 2022 #77
This is the USA for Pete's sake!!! DFW Aug 2022 #78
The criminals are the parents of those kids. tavernier Aug 2022 #90
Yes, yes, yes, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #92
I disagree. EndlessWire Aug 2022 #94
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Chicago would-be robber d...»Reply #8