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Kaleva

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123. My son-law has acquired 20 acres and my youngest step-son will soon get 20 acres

Reply to Farmer-Rick (Reply #38)

Sun Jul 31, 2022, 05:08 PM

Jul 2022

Just outside of our little town. I'm working on converting my backyard in town into a vegetable garden and orchard.

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Climate scientist claims it's too late [View all] Kaleva Jul 2022 OP

We are to the point of exponential change. bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #1

If we had started when Jimmy Carter was President as he tried to get us to do, things would be Samrob Jul 2022 #66

If we had put Al Gore at the top of the ticket in 92 instead of Bill Clinton milestogo Jul 2022 #68

Yes he was, But nothing Clinton did stood in his way. Samrob Jul 2022 #71

I'm not blaming Clinton milestogo Jul 2022 #72

As a millenial I am quite angry and feel like the older generations sold us out DSandra Aug 2022 #134

We have known for 150 + years that the more CO2 in a body of gas the more heat that body will hold.. Botany Jul 2022 #2

This will sink like a rock Brenda Jul 2022 #3

I disagree BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #54

While this OP/thread H2O Man Jul 2022 #63

As well it should. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #65

One of the things H2O Man Jul 2022 #67

Glad to see this thread is not sinking Brenda Jul 2022 #87

Scariest aspect: ensuing mob/gang mentality in the war of survival Auggie Jul 2022 #4

Mad Maga Max nt Brenda Jul 2022 #5

+1 H2O Man Jul 2022 #64

Those living in caves with oxygen tanks survive bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #7

For the very wealthy, "superyacht" condos: Auggie Jul 2022 #16

So is piracy. Nowhere will be safe. /nt localroger Jul 2022 #18

Yep... FalloutShelter Jul 2022 #34

They'll have their own navy for defense Auggie Jul 2022 #36

The seas are the worst place to be Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #27

Indeed... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #33

I disagree Auggie Jul 2022 #37

yeah - while is has fuel... Locrian Jul 2022 #41

It seems inevitable that a certain class of people will be targets... rubbersole Jul 2022 #44

yes Locrian Jul 2022 #84

Just looking at your first paragraph, Delphinus Jul 2022 #92

Most refineries are near coastlines and will be unusable Ponietz Jul 2022 #75

Sails and solar. Don't judge superyachts of today by superyachts of tomorrow. Auggie Jul 2022 #79

maybe, going to need to improve a LOT ... Locrian Jul 2022 #82

It also needs supplies and parts for maintenance dalton99a Jul 2022 #57

Only if you can get out of the path of the storm Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #94

...and no space at the safe harbors. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #42

Werewolf Preppers may be a problem. Kaleva Jul 2022 #73

Scariest of all Auggie Jul 2022 #80

time to stop beating around the bush and go all out nuke power, as much as possible Celerity Jul 2022 #6

+1. A sea change in attitude is needed among environmentalists and the general public dalton99a Jul 2022 #12

We just haven't quite got the hang of cleaning up after them though. Lochloosa Jul 2022 #25

Nuke power????? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #32

the next gen ones are shedloads safer, and we are going to have no choice, the EROI on renewables Celerity Jul 2022 #35

Perhaps Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #104

Evidence of potential giant tornadoes and hurricanes? paleotn Jul 2022 #49

How do you think global warming works? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #103

.... paleotn Jul 2022 #106

Increased heat increases the energy of storms Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #108

Show me one peer reviewed paper paleotn Jul 2022 #112

Chernobyl literally took tank shells during the spring war offensive NickB79 Jul 2022 #50

Good to know about the shells dropped on Chernobyl Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #105

+1 gulliver Jul 2022 #61

I worry about the wild things. They will not be able leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #8

I think they will fare better than us. MiHale Jul 2022 #9

Actually... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #10

60 million years from now localroger Jul 2022 #19

Well, shit. Pretty hard to maintain optimism anymore. dameatball Jul 2022 #11

He isn't the only one sounding the alarm merrifield Jul 2022 #13

+1. In a mere five years from now: dalton99a Jul 2022 #15

He's not necessarily wrong, but should point out he's not a climatologist hatrack Jul 2022 #14

So what? I'm not a doctor but I figured out I was pre-diabetic all on my own. localroger Jul 2022 #20

So people should not visit doctors?? Nt USALiberal Jul 2022 #26

Why did you ask that question? jaxexpat Jul 2022 #46

It appears he's a volcanologist NickB79 Jul 2022 #51

We aren't doing enough AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #17

I'm very tempted to start prepping for climate change upheaval Amishman Jul 2022 #21

I've got many posts in the Frugal Living & Gardening groups detailing what I'm doing Kaleva Jul 2022 #28

Yeah, if I can keep my farm out of the hands of corporations, Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #38

LOL BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #90

Safer than New Orleans or tornado ally Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #109

Thanks for the personal attack Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #117

It's a personal attack? BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #118

No I just swatted away your silly little insults cause no one Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #126

Whoa. BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #131

You got nothing better to do but insult me Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #125

Hi Rick BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #132

So what then? Suicide or join a post-apocalypic gang to survive? NickB79 Jul 2022 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #120

Hint Bannon will personally attack you Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #127

Hi Rick BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #130

My son-law has acquired 20 acres and my youngest step-son will soon get 20 acres Kaleva Jul 2022 #123

There will be no survival because you are a little better fixed than some others. Chainfire Jul 2022 #52

Without gas, they won't get far. Kaleva Jul 2022 #88

Yeah sooooo? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #101

K & R...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #22

Missing Words robodruid1 Jul 2022 #23

He thinks it's too late for that. merrifield Jul 2022 #29

Unless he is saying "Game over man" robodruid1 Jul 2022 #43

Add in the loss of the Amazon rainforest for massive carbon release NickB79 Jul 2022 #55

Putting nukes in the paths of quarter globe sized hurricanes Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #39

Candles and reading by firelight then? paleotn Jul 2022 #48

Orrrrr better solar tech. Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #95

Not when it's cloudy, at night or during the Winter. paleotn Jul 2022 #99

You're confused about how solar works Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #91

So is insulting me and Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #129

It's got to be in the mix..... paleotn Jul 2022 #47

May very well be. Climatologists have been ultra conservative in their predictions paleotn Jul 2022 #24

This is what happens when you don't listen to scientists but Glaisne Jul 2022 #30

Story in the BBC Delphinus Jul 2022 #93

Thank you, Al Gore for warning us for decades about global warming and betsuni Jul 2022 #31

And yet, try to get people to embrace one of the only effective responses to this emergency: Ron Green Jul 2022 #40

You are 100% correct about de-growth. But it's too late now. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #74

Imagine a politician running on a political platform of "NO NEW CARS..." hunter Jul 2022 #85

Is anyone making plans? Marthe48 Jul 2022 #45

I am Kaleva Jul 2022 #53

Yep NickB79 Jul 2022 #60

I've had a plan for almost two decades. Lancero Jul 2022 #89

Grim Marthe48 Jul 2022 #98

I had a friend Marthe48 Jul 2022 #107

Those with adult kids and older grandkids may have a better chance of survival Kaleva Jul 2022 #113

It'll certainly help to cooperate Marthe48 Jul 2022 #124

Stuck in California for the near future Auggie Jul 2022 #96

Found a list of derecho events Marthe48 Jul 2022 #110

It should be known to future generations that capitalism caused this DSandra Aug 2022 #135

The oil companies just posted the biggest profits in their history. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #56

A couple of years back I read an interview Xavier Breath Jul 2022 #58

We can strive to adapt Kaleva Jul 2022 #62

True, we can strive to do a lot of things. Xavier Breath Jul 2022 #69

Those who can afford to survive may even prosper. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #59

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #70

It's been too late for years. sky_masterson Jul 2022 #76

Climate change is happening much faster then earlier predicted. Kaleva Jul 2022 #77

Fareed Zakaria wrote this piece 15 years ago Mosby Jul 2022 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Jul 2022 #81

Population crash in 3...2...1.... roamer65 Jul 2022 #83

I'm in the camp that the worst case scenario can still be avoided. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #86

I agree Kaleva Jul 2022 #100

Want to know who to blame? Thank Rupert Murdoch and 20+ years of climate science denial. Initech Jul 2022 #111

It will take over a thousand years for CO2 to naturally dissipate Kaleva Jul 2022 #114

Too late? Patton French Jul 2022 #115

We struggle to survive in the brave, new world Kaleva Jul 2022 #116

Best places to live Mosby Jul 2022 #122

Then we all die Meowmee Aug 2022 #133

Reminder to thank Big Oil and Big Coal and Big Paper and Plastic, on your way out? Brainfodder Jul 2022 #121