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Nevilledog

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Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:43 PM Jun 2022

Timothy Snyder: Putin is preparing to starve much of the developing world [View all]





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Russia has a hunger plan. Vladimir Putin is preparing to starve much of the developing world as the next stage in his war in Europe. 1/16

In normal times, Ukraine is a leading exporter of foodstuffs. A Russian naval blockade now prevents Ukraine from exporting grain. 2/16

If the Russian blockade continues, tens of millions of tons of food will rot in silos, and tens of millions of people in Africa and Asia will starve. 3/16

The horror of Putin's hunger plan is so great that we have a hard time apprehending it. We also tend to forget how central food is to politics. Some historical examples can help. 4/16

The idea that controlling Ukrainian grain can change the world is not new. Both Stalin and Hitler wished to do so. 5/16

For Stalin, Ukraine's black earth was to be exploited to build an industrial economy for the USSR. In fact, collectivized agriculture killed about four million Ukrainians. 6/16

Notably, as people began to die in large numbers, Stalin blamed the Ukrainians themselves. Soviet propaganda called those who drew attention to the famine "Nazis." 7/16

Actual Nazis had related ideas. They liked the idea of controlling Ukrainian agriculture. This was in fact Hitler's central war aim. 8/16

Hitler wished to redirect Ukrainian grain from the Soviet Union to Germany, in the hope of starving millions of Soviet citizens. 9/16

The Second World War was fought for Ukraine and in considerable measure in Ukraine, between dictators who wanted to control food supplies. 10/16

Russian memory politics prepared the way for a 21st-century hunger plan. Russians are told that Stalin's famine was an accident and that Ukrainians are Nazis. This makes theft and blockade seem acceptable. 11/16

Putin's hunger plan is, I believe, meant to work on three levels. First, it is part of a larger attempt to destroy the Ukrainian state, by cutting off its exports. 12/16

Putin's hunger plan is also meant to generate refugees from North Africa and the Middle East, areas usually fed by Ukraine. This would generate instability in the EU. 13/16

Finally, and most horribly, a world famine is a necessary backdrop for a Russian propaganda campaign against Ukraine. Actual mass death is needed as the backdrop for a propaganda contest. 14/16

When the food riots begin, and as starvation spreads, Russian propaganda will blame Ukraine, and call for Russia's territorial gains in Ukraine to be recognized, and for all sanctions to be lifted. 15/16

Russia is planning to starve Asians and Africans in order to win its war in Europe. This is a new level of colonialism, and the latest chapter of hunger politics. 16/16
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Pretty obvious. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #1
Russian army deliberately shells wheat fields with incendiary missiles. Nevilledog Jun 2022 #7
If it had been windy-er KS Toronado Jun 2022 #31
Whatever it takes. moondust Jun 2022 #2
Peter the great..nah. More like Nicolas the 2nd..lost 2 wars including WWI. A total failure PortTack Jun 2022 #10
He's deranged. moondust Jun 2022 #11
There's nothing that can be done to stop this? Boomerproud Jun 2022 #3
Pretty much nothing maxsolomon Jun 2022 #15
It can be stopped fairly easily. Destroy the rail bridges and Tomconroy Jun 2022 #22
I agree with this. EndlessWire Jun 2022 #39
Thanks for posting. That's chilling. gulliver Jun 2022 #4
Imagine what Putin would do if he gained control of all Phoenix61 Jun 2022 #5
Exactly! Pure unmitigated evil. The west cannot allow Ukraine to fall. PortTack Jun 2022 #9
The winds of war are blowing. roamer65 Jun 2022 #6
I just ordered some grains from Bob's Red Mill. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #8
Might be time to reconsider using 40% of our corn for ethanol NickB79 Jun 2022 #12
Thank you! CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #20
Does Putin really think BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #13
The US/Europe will not stop exports because they do not want responsibility for famine. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #17
If Putin starves Ukraine and Europe BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #18
He won't starve Europe. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #19
He knows he's safe. EndlessWire Jun 2022 #40
Kick dalton99a Jun 2022 #14
The new talking point from trumpies on FB maryellen99 Jun 2022 #16
"A Russian naval blockade now prevents Ukraine from exporting grain." Takket Jun 2022 #21
Insufficient rail infastructure? Disaffected Jun 2022 #23
Bulky, slow and cumbersome. paleotn Jun 2022 #29
The Black Sea? EndlessWire Jun 2022 #42
Can the UN provide a legal cover, at least ostensibly, for nonUkraine military intervention? Karadeniz Jun 2022 #24
Break the blockade. paleotn Jun 2022 #25
THIS! ancianita Jun 2022 #28
Somewhat OT: Eyeball_Kid Jun 2022 #26
If Biden doesn't want the corporate inflation propaganda war to hurt him in '24, he'll find a way. ancianita Jun 2022 #32
Snyder is the expert on mass murder by starvation. He knows Putin is following the Stalin model. ancianita Jun 2022 #27
He isn't going to just blame Ukraine. EndlessWire Jun 2022 #43
Right. ancianita Jun 2022 #44
I've felt concern for famine since this atrocity began. barbtries Jun 2022 #30
Famine is a nature driven problem. This is human mass murder by forced starvation, not famine. ancianita Jun 2022 #33
i had to google that. barbtries Jun 2022 #34
I hear you. ancianita Jun 2022 #35
Well it got through to me barbtries Jun 2022 #37
Fair point about man made famine. ancianita Jun 2022 #38
your point is well taken. barbtries Jun 2022 #45
Cool. ancianita Jun 2022 #46
How is it that the "developing world"/ the west can't feed its self? Too many subsidies to not grow Samrob Jun 2022 #36
A harbinger of what's coming with climate change. Our uber capitalist new world order is built jalan48 Jun 2022 #41
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