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64. Is it anarchist to believe authority and respect should be earned and not simply given?

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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:35 AM

Jan 2012

Or would anarchism be believing authority does not exist?

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Anyone here, deep in their heart, an Anarchist? [View all] Taverner Jan 2012 OP

Yep hobbit709 Jan 2012 #1

Present. n/t Mnemosyne Jan 2012 #2

Anti-authority as a reflex is no good- digonswine Jan 2012 #3

Yep, this is the way I see it too. The problem is, too many politicans anymore IMO RKP5637 Jan 2012 #7

I don't know about that- digonswine Jan 2012 #15

You are quite right!!! The way the system works most people get F'ed over by RKP5637 Jan 2012 #30

By the way- digonswine Jan 2012 #55

Power corrputs. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Taverner Jan 2012 #8

Power corrupts, absolute power is kind of neat! n/t backscatter712 Jan 2012 #68

Yup... villager Jan 2012 #4

I am partly dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #5

It depends on the authority. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #6

Just to make a short statment, the current system we live RKP5637 Jan 2012 #9

Wow! That's two things you have said today that ...... oldhippie Jan 2012 #19

Lol, sorry! sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #36

Internet forums are intrinsically authoritarian, there is a central server... joshcryer Jan 2012 #80

They say we (Anarchists) can't rule ourselves, but they let us vote for our rulers NightWatcher Jan 2012 #10

Authority certainly must be hard earned and never given. Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #11

No. But I have always felt obligated to question authority notadmblnd Jan 2012 #12

Totally nt Taverner Jan 2012 #13

Yes, it does! Authority should always be questioned. RKP5637 Jan 2012 #31

Not just deep in my heart... RevStPatrick Jan 2012 #14

Over here! Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #16

Yes it's true. obliviously Jan 2012 #17

Definitely salib Jan 2012 #18

Libertarianism is a much younger concept, it was invented because the capitalists... joshcryer Jan 2012 #81

In fact the term "libertarain" was coined by an anarchist writer in the late 1800's. white_wolf Jan 2012 #83

Yeah, "libertarian" was originally a socialist term. George Orwell would be proud... joshcryer Jan 2012 #84

yep knowbody0 Jan 2012 #20

I am n/t deutsey Jan 2012 #21

Only in a Graeber-esque way Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #22

Me too Taverner Jan 2012 #28

Its either a delicate balance or a hopeless muddle... bhikkhu Jan 2012 #23

No, but I may be the anti-christ. Fuzz Jan 2012 #24

As a Tourette, I believe in Freedom of thought and perspectives.;.. opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #25

I believe in antidisestablishmentarianism. Our ability to set up societal structures WonderGrunion Jan 2012 #26

The problem with anarchy is that someone always comes along and takes it away. DeadEyeDyck Jan 2012 #27

I am no doubt an anarchist, but that means I don't attach power to origins alcibiades_mystery Jan 2012 #29

Authority is something we project onto others. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #32

Yes. "Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #33

No, deep down inside, I'm a dog. EFerrari Jan 2012 #34

Dogs don't have to be "Animal Farm" dogs... Taverner Jan 2012 #37

watch out for pigs on the wing.. G_j Jan 2012 #57

When I see, hear or read anything anarchical... Tikki Jan 2012 #35

No. I think we need laws to protect the vulnerable (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #38

NO. Not just no, but Hell, No! NashvilleLefty Jan 2012 #39

Anarchism is not Anarchy... Taverner Jan 2012 #41

I'm a laissez-faire Anarchist Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #40

if i say 'yes', will i still be an anarchist? marasinghe Jan 2012 #42

"i would think that every form of authority - from autocracy through to supposed anarchy... Taverner Jan 2012 #44

Been accused here of being an anarchist graywarrior Jan 2012 #43

nope Mudoria Jan 2012 #45

I think you are describing 2 very different things. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #46

You Are Right - HOWEVER.... Taverner Jan 2012 #47

LOL ... I love your honesty!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #48

Night away from co-parent tonight Taverner Jan 2012 #49

I'm dying now!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #50

"Where communal structures TBF Jan 2012 #51

My comment had nothing to do with "outside aggressors" JoePhilly Jan 2012 #54

I understand what you are saying and disagree with that concept - TBF Jan 2012 #72

My point is that the emergence of leaders transcends capitalism. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #75

Pretty close ... TBF Jan 2012 #52

My 15-year-old brother is........ AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #53

Red-baiting, TBF Jan 2012 #73

No, not quite. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #85

"One who detests authority of all forms" Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #56

stupid authority bugs me roguevalley Jan 2012 #58

"Patriotism is voluntary." bemildred Jan 2012 #59

Checking in n/t agent46 Jan 2012 #60

Where is joshcryer? n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #61

Josh is an Antichrist? pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #62

Sometimes I'm not so sure... ellisonz Jan 2012 #63

Good to know I'm not the only one he confuses. white_wolf Jan 2012 #74

That's due to pragmatism and politics. joshcryer Jan 2012 #76

Is it anarchist to believe authority and respect should be earned and not simply given? Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #64

Yep. TransitJohn Jan 2012 #65

authority yes, respect no. Sirveri Jan 2012 #66

Yep. It's time our government learn that its authority needs to be earned, not extorted. n/t backscatter712 Jan 2012 #67

Who died and made YOU speaker for anarchists?!!11! JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #69

I think everyone is, until they get sick. Festivito Jan 2012 #70

That introduces a discussion on anarchism and specialization. joshcryer Jan 2012 #79

Authority and I have been on the 'outs' for years. Solly Mack Jan 2012 #71

not quite ready to come out of that particular closet dembotoz Jan 2012 #77

I'm with you varelse Jan 2012 #78

I am willing to be led when it is clear to me that the person doing the leading is... MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #82