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Hieronymus Phact

(367 posts)
99. I disagree
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:48 AM
May 2022

Last edited Wed May 25, 2022, 11:21 AM - Edit history (1)

I've never visited this "Gungeon" i'm a gun owner but i just don't need to chat about it online, But the basics are this: Most people don't want all the guns outlawed. They just don't. Stricter laws sure, most are for that, I personally advocate that, but a total ban ...not popular. Sorry that's the reality. I see this among blue collar union members, white collar professionals, across racial lines, Black, Asian, Hispanic. it's simply not the majority opinion.
That was Point 1.

Point 2 is this:
The more radical the GOP gets, the more disaffected people will turn up in those forums. You NEED them to win elections. Period. If they're allies on abortion, election integrity, any integrity, diplomacy, religious nut jobs etc. Why would you toss them out in desperate times like these?
They're less than 100% pure allies? I didn't realize we were in such a comfortable position to reject people over a single disagreeable stance, not my style.

I think allowing them a home here is important, did they break forum rules? Apparently not. Is there a purity test here? I hope not. This is what a "big tent" looks like. No one can have a governing majority in this country without people you disagree with, and if Democrats are to ever maintain a majority to keep the lunatics at bay, It will never happen without them.

Reading through the comments apparently many of these people are just provocative trolling assholes so i don't have any sympathy for that. Gloating over these tragedies is sickening. Am i wrong in thinking standard forum rules should handle that type of behavior regardless of the issue?

Thank you..agree totally PortTack May 2022 #1
K & R Celerity May 2022 #2
I was banned years ago for expressing PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #3
It takes some work to get blocked from the Gungeon, only 5 posters are banned there at this time. Dial H For Hero May 2022 #8
That's what's bothering you tonight?? USALiberal May 2022 #10
I'm not bothered by it (being blocked) in the slightest. Dial H For Hero May 2022 #16
How about being banned outright? tenderfoot May 2022 #69
Oh, wow! Looks like he'll have to be heroic elsewhere! Scrivener7 May 2022 #83
His defending the shooter perhaps tenderfoot May 2022 #92
Except he's done that lots of times before. Scrivener7 May 2022 #93
I'm glad the admins had enough of his nonsense. tenderfoot May 2022 #94
Me too! Just the name was barf-inducing. Scrivener7 May 2022 #95
Hallelujah! Spazito May 2022 #111
well played Celerity May 2022 #155
Lol... Dial B for Buh-Bye! demmiblue May 2022 #158
Oh my GAWD do I *heart* that is you last post Maru Kitteh May 2022 #151
Interesting, isn't it, the points some feel are important when discussing massacres of children? Scrivener7 May 2022 #82
There are fewer blocked from the Gungeon because people shun it Orrex May 2022 #85
Also, if you look through the ones blocked from the gun control group, most of them Scrivener7 May 2022 #90
I was banned by the other place for saying people who have guns ought to get training Kaleva May 2022 #133
K&R - nt Ohio Joe May 2022 #4
K and R Chautauquas May 2022 #5
K&R Solly Mack May 2022 #6
K & R Nevilledog May 2022 #7
Earl, please make this true!!!!!! USALiberal May 2022 #9
I'm with you. llmart May 2022 #11
I had no idea that there was such a group on DU. Floyd R. Turbo May 2022 #12
Me either. SergeStorms May 2022 #22
They used to be much more disruptive, on almost any posting, trying to engage FailureToCommunicate May 2022 #25
But the 2nd DUmendment lame54 May 2022 #13
Yes. And here's a little history to hit them with. soldierant May 2022 #119
deserves an OP . . . AndyS May 2022 #150
Thanks. See below. soldierant May 2022 #153
Well done! Well done indeed. nt AndyS May 2022 #154
Progressives are actually getting more pro-2nd amendment over the past decade, perhaps kelly1mm May 2022 #14
Not THIS progressive! calimary May 2022 #54
Since what you ask is physically impossible, no, there is no deal. And progressives kelly1mm May 2022 #61
I hear ya' Calimary...... My sister was taken from this earth by a gun. groundloop May 2022 #63
Yep. We're not talking muskets anymore. calimary May 2022 #104
I don't go there much anymore, but its a good place for discussion. SYFROYH May 2022 #15
I stumbled in there once when I was just exploring. ShazzieB May 2022 #52
Agree and kick. EOM Scottie Mom May 2022 #17
gun humpers make me sick Skittles May 2022 #18
I disagree. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #19
Why? Please elaborate. nt Javaman May 2022 #57
FTG, AGAB demmiblue May 2022 #74
Kick. Good idea. Scrivener7 May 2022 #20
And some come to GD and cleverly post gun porn. Kingofalldems May 2022 #21
Sociopaths. As evidenced by their response at every gun massacre. Scrivener7 May 2022 #23
Scotland: Kingofalldems May 2022 #24
And there's also New Zealand. Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #26
Soon after that their freedoms were crushed by government tyranny IronLionZion May 2022 #76
agree with you. barbtries May 2022 #27
Word mahina May 2022 #28
They need to go. alittlelark May 2022 #29
I am SO glad this O.P. isn't locked! ShazzieB May 2022 #30
Everyone has a right to free speech, regardless of how hateful, but AndyS May 2022 #31
it's like hearing the point of veiw espoused by repukes Skittles May 2022 #68
We see the regular massacres of children. We know very well the mentality we're dealing with. Scrivener7 May 2022 #81
Respect discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2022 #148
that gets a big YES from me. Please! NewHendoLib May 2022 #32
Please shut the "gungeon" down! YorkRd May 2022 #33
K&R pazzyanne May 2022 #34
They would then bring their gun discussions here IronLionZion May 2022 #35
Years ago the gungeon was formed to keep them out of the general postings Throck May 2022 #53
Does Discussionist still exist? They can post their craziness there instead IronLionZion May 2022 #56
I don't think so. ShazzieB May 2022 #65
No. Skinner took it down a little bit after the George Floyd protests Hong Kong Cavalier May 2022 #70
Surprised this post hasn't been alerted on maxsolomon May 2022 #36
You wouldn't know if it did happen, nt USALiberal May 2022 #37
I'd know when it was locked. maxsolomon May 2022 #59
Not all alerted posts get locked or taken down wryter2000 May 2022 #106
Correct. It just depends on the jury. ShazzieB May 2022 #122
i agree, but something you can do now- mopinko May 2022 #38
I vote for closing it down too. So do the dead kids. Captain Zero May 2022 #39
The Gungeon has its function. TomSlick May 2022 #40
Let them post in GD then BWdem4life May 2022 #41
I would prefer they not post in GD. TomSlick May 2022 #44
You don't solve problems by ignoring them. nt BWdem4life May 2022 #46
True, but you can limit the damage by walling off the crazies. TomSlick May 2022 #49
Crazy concentrated is worse. nt live love laugh May 2022 #91
You don't solve the problem by having them post their shit on DU either. Their having or Scrivener7 May 2022 #80
Oh, I don't want them posting their shit on DU. BWdem4life May 2022 #112
That crazy uncle? In my family, when he enables repeated massacres of children, he Scrivener7 May 2022 #79
Disagree nt Raine May 2022 #42
Lol USALiberal May 2022 #73
Kick canetoad May 2022 #43
I don't know how many recs it was up to when you posted this. ShazzieB May 2022 #123
Hey Shazzie canetoad May 2022 #126
Hey yourself! ShazzieB May 2022 #146
Think of it as the Anus of DU Diablo del sol May 2022 #45
I agree. There's lots of other places online for gun nuts to hang out. Crunchy Frog May 2022 #47
Leave it. nt Hotler May 2022 #48
This forum supports Democrats and the Democratic Party and it's Platform Zeitghost May 2022 #50
That statement doesn't mean that we have to give them a forum. lastlib May 2022 #51
Yes! YorkRd May 2022 #64
If you don't like it don't go there Polybius May 2022 #144
Here's a very simple solution, MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #159
What's your point? The platform doesn't say we have to have a bunch of cockroaches Scrivener7 May 2022 #78
My point Zeitghost May 2022 #97
So who is banning discussion on a platform item? Link me to one post from the gungeon that Scrivener7 May 2022 #98
There are plenty here Zeitghost May 2022 #100
So you can't. Got it. Scrivener7 May 2022 #101
We both know that's a cop out Zeitghost May 2022 #107
LOL! Project much? Yes. Some of us are here to support the party and its policies. Others Scrivener7 May 2022 #108
Speak for yourself. ShazzieB May 2022 #124
Pro gun people are defacto baby murderers. Throck May 2022 #55
Looking forward to their response. Fla_Democrat May 2022 #58
Post removed Post removed May 2022 #67
The admins? Fla_Democrat May 2022 #72
In my entire time on DU, no gun zealot has offered meaningful steps toward reducing gun violence Orrex May 2022 #60
I think half of them are paid trolls. Because they only ever show up to push NRA bullshit Scrivener7 May 2022 #77
I've advocated the restricting of detachable gun magazines to 5 rounds Kaleva May 2022 #131
It's amazing that developed nations don't have this problem Orrex May 2022 #141
Question DashOneBravo May 2022 #142
Nominally I disagree Lithos May 2022 #62
Let's not cancel it Polybius May 2022 #66
K&R - nt PunkinPi May 2022 #71
K&R DLevine May 2022 #75
kick HAB911 May 2022 #84
Way past time for the RKBA group to be closed down, even in its calmer current status. Paladin May 2022 #86
I know nothing about this DU subscription. But I know this. The only way out of this mess Demsrule86 May 2022 #87
Do we have forums to accommodate opposition to marriage equality? Opposing right to choose? 867-5309. May 2022 #88
Exactly. MuseRider May 2022 #96
thank you bigtree May 2022 #89
I disagree Hieronymus Phact May 2022 #99
100% YES...Dreading the triumphant gunner posts about gun sales going up greenjar_01 May 2022 #102
+19 SoonerPride May 2022 #103
Amen wryter2000 May 2022 #105
I've got a gun humper in my family. slightlv May 2022 #109
Bullshit, don't know if I've ever posted there but it should not be dropped. denbot May 2022 #110
Nope! nt USALiberal May 2022 #138
K & R SunSeeker May 2022 #113
What does "RKBA" stand for? honest.abe May 2022 #114
It's an acronym for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms -nt Hieronymus Phact May 2022 #118
Ah got it! I should have figured that out! honest.abe May 2022 #120
Bravo YoshidaYui May 2022 #115
Preach! lillypaddle May 2022 #116
Democrats own guns too, and it's in the site name. JohnnyRingo May 2022 #117
I'm inclined to agree with you. gibraltar72 May 2022 #121
Yes, please. milestogo May 2022 #125
K&R for the evening llmart May 2022 #127
But.it's.called DashOneBravo May 2022 #128
why is this an open thread after 10 years KG May 2022 #129
Jesus, that's unhinged. demmiblue May 2022 #157
I didn't even know such a room existed. PatrickforB May 2022 #130
There are 2 Groups BumRushDaShow May 2022 #134
Ah, this 'gun porn' concept reminds me of when I was in grad school PatrickforB May 2022 #136
Ha! BumRushDaShow May 2022 #140
The rules prohibit the discussion in GD of how dangerous guns are Kaleva May 2022 #132
I forgot all about that rule. ShazzieB May 2022 #149
I'm fine with the idea of talking about guns here in GD. It may piss off others. Kaleva May 2022 #135
The time has come ThoughtCriminal May 2022 #137
We could then have discussions like the below here in GD if the Gungeon is shut down. Kaleva May 2022 #139
kick Celerity May 2022 #143
Nah... Ellipsis May 2022 #145
I don't agree. When shit hits the fan we're going to need our armed allies ecstatic May 2022 #147
I've changed my mind about that. This week GD is overrun with gunsplainers & they need to GTFO... Hekate May 2022 #152
This is why it was created in the first place SYFROYH May 2022 #156
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