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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:52 PM

Roy Rolling (5,085 posts)

80. Doing it all again

I starting feeling the same way last week when I realized all the gains from the 1960s movments have been eroded and must be done all over again just to put the US where it was 40 years ago. *sigh*

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175 replies	Author	Time	Post
I'm Not Sure How To Ask This... But... Is Anybody Else Feeling A Great Nauseous Forboding About... [View all]	WillyT	Dec 2011	OP
Read this and everything else seems... less important.	Whisp	Dec 2011	#1
Holy Crap !!!	WillyT	Dec 2011	#4
oh ok, methane trapped under the arctic ice being released causing much faster global warming...	limpyhobbler	Dec 2011	#6
Most the Methane is now trapped under the ice...so when the sea ice is melted...	Auntie Bush	Dec 2011	#128
That was my first thought Auntie Bush	sasha031	Dec 2011	#145
I remember reading about this as a dangerous potential scenario, over 12 years ago.	dixiegrrrrl	Dec 2011	#8
nod Interestingly I'd posted that same Spiegel article in E&E earlier.	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#18
ahhhhh..THERE you are.....good to see ya.	dixiegrrrrl	Dec 2011	#39
In 1982 I had a class given by scientists that warned this IS the worse case scenario to avoid.	glinda	Dec 2011	#54
der spiegel article is from 2008	librechik	Dec 2011	#88
Some are happy................	Angry Dragon	Dec 2011	#13
angry dragon on a crazy train	leftyohiolib	Dec 2011	#47
That is just a comment I found	Angry Dragon	Dec 2011	#104
my apologies angry dragon	leftyohiolib	Dec 2011	#146
I have gone bonkers however I did not write that	Angry Dragon	Dec 2011	#152
Durn!	chervilant	Dec 2011	#126
You don't like the idea of a loving and forgiving God?	Cal33	Dec 2011	#169
I will answer anyway.......	Angry Dragon	Dec 2011	#170
That's not good.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2011	#25
So in essence,	eilen	Dec 2011	#37
AND "we" have done NOTHING to address the problem for decades, even knowing it was so.	dixiegrrrrl	Dec 2011	#40
And we'll go out.....like a fart	Maraya1969	Dec 2011	#56
This is not a threat that one can easily blow off.	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2011	#75
Yep. Don't light a match!	loudsue	Dec 2011	#76
They've found something that	Turbineguy	Dec 2011	#107
That does pale everyting by comparison	BlueToTheBone	Dec 2011	#44
I saw this too. My greatest fear is the cascading effect of human caused stresses on th environment	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#61
Paraguay.	Octafish	Dec 2011	#62
Is that were George Bush bought thousands of acres of land over the largest Aquafer	Auntie Bush	Dec 2011	#130
Paraguay. Right next door to Rev Moon's spread.	Octafish	Dec 2011	#141
This too shall pass.	ZombieHorde	Dec 2011	#73
Eh...	kenfrequed	Dec 2011	#95
Life may thrive on other planets, for a while.	ZombieHorde	Dec 2011	#113
Scientists say the sun will burn out in 5 billion years...so we have plenty of time	Auntie Bush	Dec 2011	#132
Well...	kenfrequed	Dec 2011	#156
Our bodies are made up of atoms and particles that came from exploding stars and galaxies of	Cal33	Dec 2011	#171
Nobody light a match!!	Fair Witness	Dec 2011	#103
It's as if mankind has given the earth a giant bellyache	GoddessOfGuinness	Dec 2011	#108
I'll bet corporations will say "It's not true," if they could make money from denying it. Somehow	Cal33	Dec 2011	#173
Yep.	DirkGently	Dec 2011	#2
Corporatocracy rules.	lpbk2713	Dec 2011	#3
It's not just corporations, it's anyone who controls massive amounts of capital (like the Koch bros)	Capitalocracy	Dec 2011	#24
it appears that politics is no longer an idea business	spanone	Dec 2011	#5
Yes. I read some posts and get a knot in the pit of my stomach. nt	Mojorabbit	Dec 2011	#7
Definitely	txlibdem	Dec 2011	#9
Clathrates we already know, they are for tomorrow. The Death of Democracy,	Fire Walk With Me	Dec 2011	#10
What is the "clathrate" you refer to in your header?	truedelphi	Dec 2011	#119
Clathrates are a form of methane that is locked up in ice, usually deep under ocean sediment . . .	hatrack	Dec 2011	#139
I had never heard of this expression before.	truedelphi	Dec 2011	#167
Yes, not just the country.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#11
nadin... It's Like Everybody In Power, Is In On Some Sort Of Giant Secret...	WillyT	Dec 2011	#16
Why the American Elite Media	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#20
Absolutely....whether it is talks with my 83 year old mom, or during dog walks with my wife -	NRaleighLiberal	Dec 2011	#12
Stepping off a cliff	pscot	Dec 2011	#79
I've been pushed-I didn't step off a cliff.	Maccagirl	Dec 2011	#138
Not foreboding. I think things need to change. The real crossroads is	Dover	Dec 2011	#14
Recommended, I feel this "1984" Orwellian feeling is growing stronger	quinnox	Dec 2011	#15
ANIMAL FARM seems more appropriate. We overthrew the farmer, but now the pigs are walking on their	yurbud	Dec 2011	#99
Yeah but...	Johnny Noshoes	Dec 2011	#116
No, the environment has me more concerned.	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#17
When you look back and see what happened in Texas this year, nothing that was planted was harvested,	Aaria	Dec 2011	#53
Yah. People here don't imagine that famine could happen to us but we haven't planned at all.	aquart	Dec 2011	#91
The myth and fable of King Midas has never been more pertinent.	truedelphi	Dec 2011	#115
We supply so much of the worlds food... that if we ever have a famine...	Auntie Bush	Dec 2011	#136
My estimate was just based on my potential life cycle.	joshcryer	Dec 2011	#135
On Thom Hartmann yesterday, I heard the 2 words, "claw back," w/ref to bank accounts.	mojowork_n	Dec 2011	#19
Apparently not many have heard of this little clause in the law. I thought	Aaria	Dec 2011	#50
Propaganda.... "on both sides." That's one of the key elements of the self-sustaining frame.	mojowork_n	Dec 2011	#114
So then, you are saying?	truedelphi	Dec 2011	#117
Honestly, I wasn't trying to address any of that.	mojowork_n	Dec 2011	#121
My God, they thought of everything, didn't they --	Remember Me	Dec 2011	#64
Yes. First they made theft legal and they stole everything.	aquart	Dec 2011	#93
Allow me to frame an answer this way...	brooklynite	Dec 2011	#21
Yes I think this deck chair really looks much better over here	a simple pattern	Dec 2011	#29
LOL! Good one...n/t	BeHereNow	Dec 2011	#49
I think the view is better from the poop deck.	Aaria	Dec 2011	#51
Wish I could rec a response!	freefall	Dec 2011	#58
+1000	smirkymonkey	Dec 2011	#84
Yes,	EC	Dec 2011	#22
Actually, I'm feeling much better about things.	MannyGoldstein	Dec 2011	#23
But Manny, I just got a letter	Jakes Progress	Dec 2011	#147
What about a nauseous foreboding about climate change?	Stargleamer	Dec 2011	#26
Agreed... But Who Are The Gatekeepers To Fixing That ???	WillyT	Dec 2011	#30
Nope. Our system is a good one.	treestar	Dec 2011	#27
Ha-ha-ha-ha. Please pass the rest of us some of what you are smoking!	BeHereNow	Dec 2011	#52
Oh, hell. I don't know how you can say that.	Remember Me	Dec 2011	#65
You forgot the sarcasm thingy	pscot	Dec 2011	#82
It has worked and will keep working though thick and thin.	AlbertCat	Dec 2011	#86
In a way the U$A is more corrupt	burrowowl	Dec 2011	#28
You're not alone, Willy.	Lugnut	Dec 2011	#31
Just wait until we wake up and find Newt Gingrich is our new president!	Kablooie	Dec 2011	#32
If Newt's the nominee, hopefully that is enough to make the people stop complaining about Obama	Pachamama	Dec 2011	#34
Just like Bush/Cheney made Reagan's regime seem like the good old days.	Kablooie	Dec 2011	#69
There goes my breakfast.....	dixiegrrrrl	Dec 2011	#41
Actually I'm feeling more hopeful these days	hootinholler	Dec 2011	#33
I don't know... are you worried about the seaworthiness of the titanic?	harmonicon	Dec 2011	#35
Yes- I have the same feeling	Marrah_G	Dec 2011	#36
I have felt that way since the Bush jr. admin.	deacon_sephiroth	Dec 2011	#38
I have felt that way since the Bush jr. admin.	AlbertCat	Dec 2011	#87
Yes. A major crisis has been building for years,	BlueIris	Dec 2011	#42
I have been bouncing back and forth between	BlueToTheBone	Dec 2011	#43
Bravo WillyT. You are absolutely right. Get the money out of politics and there's hope. Go 99%	judesedit	Dec 2011	#45
That's why people are taking it to the streets.	Quantess	Dec 2011	#46
You are exactly correct.	SpankMe	Dec 2011	#48
Wow! Just yesterday I was feeling	freefall	Dec 2011	#60
Is there anyone who isn't?	LongTomH	Dec 2011	#55
I've had this feeling since 2000	MoonRiver	Dec 2011	#57
+1000	Little Star	Dec 2011	#66
+1000	MadrasT	Dec 2011	#68
+a gazillion n/t	chervilant	Dec 2011	#127
Nope	frazzled	Dec 2011	#59
Yes	MadrasT	Dec 2011	#70
"But as one that used to love politics"	mmonk	Dec 2011	#63
A two-party system is inherently flawed, imho.	mistertrickster	Dec 2011	#67
Yes	RobinA	Dec 2011	#71
"WE THE PEOPLE... need to stand the hell UP!!! "	Hotler	Dec 2011	#72
As if not enough suffering has been happening to people these past few years...	AZ Progressive	Dec 2011	#174
I have been feeling that way for most of my life.	DCBob	Dec 2011	#74
Heard on NPR today ...gov can activate your webcam and mic without you knowing.	L0oniX	Dec 2011	#77
My highly computer literate honey believes that to be true.	Kaleko	Dec 2011	#118
Anyone who isn't nauseous, drinking more than usual, and figuring out how to transfer their assets	BeHereNow	Dec 2011	#78
Doing it all again	Roy Rolling	Dec 2011	#80
As a Canadian I hope I'm not being presumptuous, but every time I see an American on TV or read	glarius	Dec 2011	#81
The Repug lineup for Prez says it all....	AlbertCat	Dec 2011	#83
It's hard NOT to feel a nauseous forboding when our police are armed for war against us,	RueVoltaire	Dec 2011	#85
Wanna share a bunk in the gulag?	BeHereNow	Dec 2011	#92
Cheers BHN!	RueVoltaire	Dec 2011	#112
I think we should be HOPING for a collapse	Doctor_J	Dec 2011	#89
I don't know why people cheer for this	nobodyspecial	Dec 2011	#124
Millions are already suffering, more every day	Doctor_J	Dec 2011	#149
Proud to be the 100th REC!	BeHereNow	Dec 2011	#90
I think of the challenges to the Voting Rights Act pending at the US Supreme Court as the	Texas Lawyer	Dec 2011	#94
"Banana Republic Without the Bananas" is one term to consider.	truedelphi	Dec 2011	#166
Yes, I am	Jack Rabbit	Dec 2011	#96
shortly after the election, when Obama chose Rahm Emanuel to be his chief of staff...	yurbud	Dec 2011	#97
Well,	ProSense	Dec 2011	#98
I'd be willing to say the 'Representatives' of both political parties are at fault.	Beavker	Dec 2011	#102
"one political party is trying to beat down the poor and create and	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2011	#134
yes	JitterbugPerfume	Dec 2011	#100
I think this everyday	Beavker	Dec 2011	#101
Not at all.	Swede	Dec 2011	#105
Forty years doesn't seem to be enough.	Jakes Progress	Dec 2011	#106
Since when is the Party of Elizabeth Warren as at fault as the Party of Michele Bachmann? (nt)	UrbScotty	Dec 2011	#109
Or at least, can anyone prove the fault of the Party of Elizabeth Warren?	UrbScotty	Dec 2011	#110
This is the problem of the party fanatic.	Jakes Progress	Dec 2011	#143
The Party of elizabeth Warren is also the party of Max Baucus and Rahm Emanuel	Doctor_J	Dec 2011	#148
its time for some of the old ways	whathappened	Dec 2011	#111
Its called living in a fascist state.	nineteen50	Dec 2011	#120
I'm waiting for my retirement fund to be stolen and my house taken away. Too many evildoers at the	valerief	Dec 2011	#122
We are in a repeat of the Long Depression, which led up to recovery in the late 1890s and WW I	FarCenter	Dec 2011	#123
I think things are getting better because people are standing up	TNLib	Dec 2011	#125
Best remedy for malaise, anxiety and hopelessness: Get out and do something! nt	SteveW	Dec 2011	#168
yes we do	proud patriot	Dec 2011	#129
Sure do. I have been feeling the nausea and foreboding for 30 fucking years	NNN0LHI	Dec 2011	#131
It is just a phase you go through in life. I started feeling that way around 1966-67	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2011	#133
Yes, but we have to keep LIVING, thinking, acting...	Mimosa	Dec 2011	#137
I think this has been coming for awhile but no	jimlup	Dec 2011	#140
Yes.	Vanje	Dec 2011	#142
I look forward to the future with much trepidation and forbidding thoughts. I just do not	RKP5637	Dec 2011	#144
Yup, it is why I packed up my family and possessions and fled.	Bonobo	Dec 2011	#150
Most Americans, I think, are in denial. That, is one root cause as to why these	RKP5637	Dec 2011	#153
Bonobo, if you have not yet seen this, Census data: Half of U.S. poor or low income	RKP5637	Dec 2011	#154
I saw that. Shocking but not surprising.	Bonobo	Dec 2011	#158
A sign of the times - Not only did my	truedelphi	Dec 2011	#161
It is, everything seems surreal anymore. Sometimes I feel like we're living in a	RKP5637	Dec 2011	#165
Yes, yes, and...	ananda	Dec 2011	#151
Americans are in denial IMO. Census data: Half of U.S. poor or low income	RKP5637	Dec 2011	#155
Are you asking if we feel the country and the world are going to hell in a handbasket?	Jamastiene	Dec 2011	#157
Nauseous? No. What I'm feeling is bordering on flat-out RAGE.	Edweird	Dec 2011	#159
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2011	#160
How Would You Know... You Just Got Here...	WillyT	Dec 2011	#162
Thanks for the welcome!	Dewey Finn	Dec 2011	#163
So... Tell Me About Your Avatar...	WillyT	Dec 2011	#164
Yes	libtodeath	Dec 2011	#172
people ARE standing up - OWS, Minnesota and such	Liberal_in_LA	Dec 2011	#175

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