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Here's the original link.. Lars39 Apr 2022 #1
Wado................thank you turbinetree Apr 2022 #2
You're welcome! Lars39 Apr 2022 #3
Problem is unaware folks or MAGA folks believe this is a government run Medicare program. Samrob Apr 2022 #53
That's what we're INTENDED to believe. dchill Apr 2022 #69
I can't afford regular medicare so I have an advanage plan that has great coverage and I really Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #163
You won't have NO insurance - Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #180
Medicare Advantage is a poison pill that needs to be redone. dchill Apr 2022 #4
So true and that in my opinion is false advertising....... turbinetree Apr 2022 #5
False advertising is just one more way to get ahead! dchill Apr 2022 #18
Those who love regular Medicare likely have grandfathered in plans that are no longer available. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #164
Not true. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #182
We each have Plan G supplemental policies. We've had some very Hortensis Apr 2022 #187
Absolutely right! Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #189
Our monthly premium is higher than yours, close to $120/mo per person, Hortensis Apr 2022 #198
The plans in my area range from $90 to $150 for a new enrollee betweeen 65 and 69 Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #201
Ouch. How nice to have a friend who's an expert in these Hortensis Apr 2022 #214
AND that is a point that needs to be publicized in the upcoming elections! Republicans (trump) BComplex Apr 2022 #71
No one sees it like that amd such rhetoric will cost us the election. Older DUers have plans Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #83
there are DUers who love their Medicare Advantage Skittles Apr 2022 #6
Trouble is, it seems we're all subsidizing it. dchill Apr 2022 #17
NO SHIT - it is FOR PROFIT Skittles Apr 2022 #36
The wraps for traditional Medicare cost money too. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #78
Many here have good regular Medicare plans that are no longer offered. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #81
Actually F was replaced with G, which is very similar to F, but G has more co-pays JohnSJ Apr 2022 #117
Exactly, it has more copays thus it is not a good plan. My advantage plan is much better. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #131
If they had Kaiser in my area, I'd sign up. I prefer coordinated care. Hoyt Apr 2022 #137
You are right. If everything is at one place it is much easier to co-ordinate the care where JohnSJ Apr 2022 #148
It is not similar as it costs way more, has higher deductibles and huge out of pocket costs. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #177
I am in Ohio, on original medicare, and my total deductible and out-of-pocket costs are $233/year. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #184
That is not correct. G does not have co-pays. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #183
My spouse was eligible for both the "good regular Medicare plan{} that {is} no longer offered Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #181
Agree SCantiGOP Apr 2022 #56
There are two tracts of Medicare Advantage plans. pazzyanne Apr 2022 #61
Well I would likely not be able to get medical treatment with regular Medicare...it is too Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #165
Exactly. Medicare Advantage is very profitable for the insurance companies dflprincess Apr 2022 #10
And we'll all be paying for it. dchill Apr 2022 #13
I agree. I heard n read Thom Hartman's many articles Deuxcents Apr 2022 #26
You don't think Medigap plans are profitable for insurance companies? JohnSJ Apr 2022 #122
Apparently not as profitable or they'd push them harder. dflprincess Apr 2022 #129
The premiums for standard Medicare and a Medigap plan are significantly more expensive, JohnSJ Apr 2022 #150
I'm aware of how much traditional Medicare + supplements will cost me dflprincess Apr 2022 #155
I agree. No argument from me, but that sure isn't going to happen before the midterms, and JohnSJ Apr 2022 #156
Not if you choose wisely. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #185
Which supplemental are you talking about? G, H, or if you are fortunate F. Yes I am including JohnSJ Apr 2022 #202
Of course they are...they have huge deductibles and out of pocket costs and there premiums Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #166
Depends on which supplemental you have how much out of pocket expenses, and directly related to JohnSJ Apr 2022 #168
Where are you getting your numbers? Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #186
A few months ago, during the enrolement period, I read an article fron some napi21 Apr 2022 #11
Yes. It's basically a scam. dchill Apr 2022 #14
I think Joe Namath has had more tv exposure time in the ads than as a football star. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #57
Yea, it's weird. Honestly, would you ever buy an insurance plan because some FB player or napi21 Apr 2022 #60
No it isn't. Not anymore than a supplemental is? JohnSJ Apr 2022 #123
as with other insurance scams Skittles Apr 2022 #39
Then are you saying Medigap plans are a "scam" also? JohnSJ Apr 2022 #124
Your numbers are way off. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #204
For supplemental F for 2 is $400. No out of pocket deductibles. Part B $170, Part D 200 JohnSJ Apr 2022 #206
They can always skip a supplemental plan (although I wouldn't advise it). Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #208
Everyone needs to determine their own comfort level and what they can afford. The fact JohnSJ Apr 2022 #210
My point is that if they can't afford the premiums for a supplement, Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #211
I am not manipulating anything. I never said that 1600 was for two people. I said that was JohnSJ Apr 2022 #212
You didn't say it was for two people, but all your prior numbers were for two people Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #215
I don't think we are really in disagreement on this. JohnSJ Apr 2022 #216
I have had a medigap plan for at least 10 years & there haven't been any scams or napi21 Apr 2022 #162
And you plan is likely no longer available. I suggest you look at what is available and then Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #167
This year on renewal our agent offered alternative Plan G supplemental Hortensis Apr 2022 #190
The corresponding new plans do not have out-of-pocket expenses, nor are the deductibles "way higher" Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #209
First of all the premiums can range from 93 to 900 dollars...and they don't include Medicare B... Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #217
The G plans are not mostly in the $300-$400 range in Ohio. Ms. Toad May 2022 #220
That's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people will be stuck with MA once they make that choice. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #188
Technically you are still on Medicare when you have an Advantage plan because the plan is in2herbs Apr 2022 #21
Exactly. One couldn't convert to an Advantage Plan if it wasn't. Also, a lot of JohnSJ Apr 2022 #126
not redone -eliminated. notinkansas Apr 2022 #63
Well, that's one way to redo it! dchill Apr 2022 #68
Yes PatSeg Apr 2022 #76
Oh wow..I did not know this..My mom switched to this so that helpisontheway Apr 2022 #112
That is not true. You are still under Medicare or you wouldn't be able to get a Medicare Advantage JohnSJ Apr 2022 #118
Oh okay. Thank you for info. Nt helpisontheway Apr 2022 #157
If your mom just switched - Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #191
Not true. It is for people who can't afford standard Medicare with a Medigap plan JohnSJ Apr 2022 #121
I have a lot of trouble understanding the hate for Medicare Advantage. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #7
I agree with you about Medicare Advantage. My parents had a Medicare Advantage plan and they skylucy Apr 2022 #8
I have never enrolled in one of these advantage plans, my wife mother and father had enrolled turbinetree Apr 2022 #9
The money that goes "back into your Social Security check..." dchill Apr 2022 #16
I don't pay a Medicare Advantage premium. What insurance company charges a premium in2herbs Apr 2022 #22
It depends on exactly what kind of coverage you want or need. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #95
On a Plan G supplement, your costs for all care for 2021 would have been $203. n/t. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #192
Depending on where I live. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #203
The deductible is fixed by the federal government, and is the same nationally. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #207
Many Aren't Eligible, Anyway ProfessorGAC Apr 2022 #114
Are you talking about the monthly fee for Medicare if your income is above PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #205
Yes, I'm Talking About That ProfessorGAC Apr 2022 #213
+ 1 pazzyanne Apr 2022 #64
Your friend either doesn't have a supplemental plan, or has bad information. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #199
Oh great, let's screw over 42% of Medicare beneficiaries-- many here - Hoyt Apr 2022 #12
they are helping privatize Medicare Skittles Apr 2022 #20
Trump started the ball rolling on that while in office and Biden is not stopping it and I in2herbs Apr 2022 #23
it is still something Skittles Apr 2022 #25
Yeah, Bill Clinton's program was designed to hurt people. Sorry, Hoyt Apr 2022 #24
uh huh Skittles Apr 2022 #29
Good, DailyKoz thinks the 42% of people who choose Advantage are too stupid Hoyt Apr 2022 #31
it's not just "DailyKoz" Skittles Apr 2022 #33
Didn't read the article, and hate the sales tactics. But, DUers are on Advantage plans Hoyt Apr 2022 #34
there are a lot of DUers on FB, too Skittles Apr 2022 #35
Glad to know you know what's best for the 42% who choose MA. Hoyt Apr 2022 #37
so 42% are for privatization of Medicare Skittles Apr 2022 #38
No. 42% are for a health plan that best meets their need, not your desires. Hoyt Apr 2022 #44
You keep using this 42% number as if that somehow justifies the programme. If you give people Celerity Apr 2022 #42
Thank you. Americans are well aware of our cruddy healthcare system. Hoyt Apr 2022 #49
point is TODAY (or during annual enrollment) stopdiggin Apr 2022 #67
If you choose MA today, you will almost certainly not be able to get Medicare supplement later on. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #196
I was very nearly "stupid" enough to choose a Medicare Advantage plan (which would have Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #195
So your supplement cost you just under $169 a month with deductible. Hoyt Apr 2022 #197
Our supplemental drug plans (for 2) cost $19.10/month. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #193
I think some people choose it not knowing what it is leftstreet Apr 2022 #40
Glad you know what they need. Some people can't afford Hoyt Apr 2022 #41
lol no I don't know what people need leftstreet Apr 2022 #43
Exactly . Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #79
what's the alternative? Takket Apr 2022 #15
The US healthcare system is designed for wealth extraction and redistribution, from the broad base Celerity Apr 2022 #19
Yet 42% of Medicare beneficiaries choose Advantage. Guess they are just Hoyt Apr 2022 #27
just because it is ok for some doesn't mean the overall system is a positive Celerity Apr 2022 #28
Didn't say it was, but it is reality for those of us who have to make that Hoyt Apr 2022 #47
The reality simply has to change for the better. The current track is headed for a train wreck. Celerity Apr 2022 #50
Agree. But that's not situation here now. We don't have your health system. Hoyt Apr 2022 #52
Well, encouraging/rewarding the rapacious for-profit private heath insurance industry to do further Celerity Apr 2022 #54
Appreciate criticism and shoddiness of our healthcare system, but it's what we have Hoyt Apr 2022 #55
Hoyt, that's so depressing to hear you (a very intelligent person) frame it in such fatalistic terms Celerity Apr 2022 #59
Appreciate it. But, it's not fatalistic to oppose screwing up to 42% of Medicare Hoyt Apr 2022 #65
People have to deal with the here and now. Regular Medicare has ended their best plans and Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #86
why did this happen? Celerity Apr 2022 #97
Medi-gap plans are done through private insuerers;they charge large premims, have big deductible and Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #169
+1 leftstreet Apr 2022 #45
you haven't answered the question stopdiggin Apr 2022 #70
remove the profit motive Celerity Apr 2022 #72
OK. Does this happen in time for stopdiggin Apr 2022 #91
shop around, I am sure you will manage nt Celerity Apr 2022 #96
have you priced Medicare supplimentals recently? stopdiggin Apr 2022 #98
I wanted to do regular Medicare and shopped around extensively-$300 or $400 per month Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #170
US healthcare's a scam, EOS, a joke, no one else in the world runs it like the US, for good reason Celerity Apr 2022 #178
We need... JoeOtterbein Apr 2022 #30
But "now" is literally 1000% impossible. So is anytime soon -- Hortensis Apr 2022 #194
Rep. Porter is the walking, breathing definition of "servant of the people", a treasure! bringthePaine Apr 2022 #32
Really? mcar Apr 2022 #101
Think we know the answer to that. Good question. Budi Apr 2022 #110
Change does not come from a slogan alone. sheshe2 Apr 2022 #119
'Burn it all down' was always the rallying cry. Budi Apr 2022 #127
Yes it is pitiful. sheshe2 Apr 2022 #128
Somehow my reply to this got lost in the ether mcar Apr 2022 #138
It is that. We have no idea what M4A even is. Budi Apr 2022 #145
Yep, just like cancel student debt mcar Apr 2022 #146
Yup. Budi Apr 2022 #151
My big complaint is that Medicare Advantage gets paid more for their coverage from CMS. halfulglas Apr 2022 #46
I'm staying out of this one. NBachers Apr 2022 #48
I had an excellent insurance advisor who advised me against using this program. Said it was a scam Samrob Apr 2022 #51
Yeah, he probably sold supplemental policies and drug plans. Hoyt Apr 2022 #90
Exactly, I found out after having to shell out 2500 for my sister in laws' surgery that there was Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #139
After reading up on it, MA is more of a HMO and it was less risky to pay the Part B for better cover keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #58
If you can afford it...many can't. And if you take a bad wraparound...you have to pay the Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #84
Exactly. Understand some people don't like "privatization," but why penalize/bash people who can't Hoyt Apr 2022 #92
That is absolutely correct. The medigap policies also come from insurance companies...I Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #141
k&r nt orleans Apr 2022 #62
One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme. Ron Green Apr 2022 #66
I love my Advantage Plus plan. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2022 #73
I do too . They refund half of part B Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #82
Many doctors will likely tell you they do not like Medicare Advantage plans because Emile Apr 2022 #74
Politicians writing letters that urge a Democratic president to cut medicare funding lapucelle Apr 2022 #75
It is fucking insanity...we could lose Congress over this...hope Biden ignores it and only those Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #87
Indeed. Who benefits from the narrative that a Democratic president is cutting Medicare funding? lapucelle Apr 2022 #89
I know I trust and respect President Cha Apr 2022 #113
Facts are our friends. lapucelle Apr 2022 #115
And you are the best at investigating Cha Apr 2022 #116
I absolutely agree Cha. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #143
I see you do, Dmes.. Cha Apr 2022 #154
I do to...do your job Congress. And please every once in a while remember this is a f'ing Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #142
This is akin to "defund the police" mcar Apr 2022 #99
I like Medicare advantage. Millions do. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #77
+100! I am one of those who is very happy with my Medicare Advantage plan. skylucy Apr 2022 #125
Me too. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #130
Katie Porter endangers her reelection . As many like Medicare advantage, Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #80
The first year of my retirement I was on an advantage plan. I found out Emile Apr 2022 #85
The one my sis has allow travel...and you have to choose what you can afford. regular medicare ... Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #88
If you buy plans from large insurers, travel is not an issue. People who take a local plan, often Hoyt Apr 2022 #93
I have a large insurer so no worries. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #133
Sure you can, just make sure the doctors, clinics and hospitals are Emile Apr 2022 #104
my Advantage Plan has doctors and hospitals out of area...and I don't think folks don't Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #132
Let's let Biden do the talking from now on. Attacking Medicare Advantage seems foolish to me. gulliver Apr 2022 #94
"Democrats want to take away your Medicare" mcar Apr 2022 #100
We spend too much time worrying about what the Republicans will say and not doing what's right. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #102
that's because the Republicans control the media mcar Apr 2022 #103
Why are you concerned with "offending Republicans"? lapucelle Apr 2022 #106
Well, the post I replied to said: Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #107
What does that have to do with offending Republicans? lapucelle Apr 2022 #111
I stand by my statement mcar Apr 2022 #140
If you have medicare advantage Progressive dog Apr 2022 #105
My Advantage plan pays half of Part B. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #136
Hell yeah. Go away JJ Walker and Joe Namath. Shove your "CALL NOW" up your ass. Hotler Apr 2022 #108
I'm confused about MA XanaDUer2 Apr 2022 #109
No, that won't happen. You never get back what you get rid of...and there would be hell Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #144
Guess what Katie Porter, straight Medicare with a Medigap has gone up significantly also, JohnSJ Apr 2022 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author Budi Apr 2022 #134
We'll be waiting till the dust layers form to hear an actual policy plan. Budi Apr 2022 #135
Well said Budi JohnSJ Apr 2022 #149
👍 Budi Apr 2022 #152
Why would she do this now during a midterm...people fearing the loss of the Advantage Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #147
+++ JohnSJ Apr 2022 #153
Lobbyists win again Chuuku Davis Apr 2022 #158
Maybe Ms Porter should look at how expensive it is for regular Medicare and taking away Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #159
Yet again it's the messaging. Rather than offering up an open goal to the GOP, could they not have OnDoutside Apr 2022 #160
Wouldn't it be better to just dump Medicare Emile Apr 2022 #161
Sure and we have zero chance of doing that. I want a unicorn too...and have as much change of Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #172
That's a big problem with our politicians, they don't represent us! They Emile Apr 2022 #173
They are representing the millions who want to keep private insurance and don't want Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #175
Oh I thought you agreed with Single Payer, but never mind. . . Emile Apr 2022 #176
Never underestimate Katie Porter's brilliance. She knows what Emile Apr 2022 #171
Her seat was Republicans for years...hope all is well there...we need her to be reelected even Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #174
I think she will be reelected because she's not afraid to govern like a democrat. Emile Apr 2022 #179
I hope so. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #200
Sorry I don't see sending Biden notes demanding this or that governing...not in Congress. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #218
"Democrats want to take your Medicare away from you." BlueIdaho Apr 2022 #219
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