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In reply to the discussion: Katie Porter leads letter urging Biden not to dump more money into Medicare Advantage [View all]Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)166. Of course they are...they have huge deductibles and out of pocket costs and there premiums
300 to 400 dollars for a decent plan but not great and then you have to add in vision, dental and gym costs. This only helps the GOP.
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Katie Porter leads letter urging Biden not to dump more money into Medicare Advantage [View all]
turbinetree
Apr 2022
OP
Problem is unaware folks or MAGA folks believe this is a government run Medicare program.
Samrob
Apr 2022
#53
I can't afford regular medicare so I have an advanage plan that has great coverage and I really
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#163
Those who love regular Medicare likely have grandfathered in plans that are no longer available.
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#164
The plans in my area range from $90 to $150 for a new enrollee betweeen 65 and 69
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#201
AND that is a point that needs to be publicized in the upcoming elections! Republicans (trump)
BComplex
Apr 2022
#71
No one sees it like that amd such rhetoric will cost us the election. Older DUers have plans
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#83
Actually F was replaced with G, which is very similar to F, but G has more co-pays
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#117
Exactly, it has more copays thus it is not a good plan. My advantage plan is much better.
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#131
You are right. If everything is at one place it is much easier to co-ordinate the care where
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#148
It is not similar as it costs way more, has higher deductibles and huge out of pocket costs.
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#177
I am in Ohio, on original medicare, and my total deductible and out-of-pocket costs are $233/year.
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#184
My spouse was eligible for both the "good regular Medicare plan{} that {is} no longer offered
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#181
Well I would likely not be able to get medical treatment with regular Medicare...it is too
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#165
The premiums for standard Medicare and a Medigap plan are significantly more expensive,
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#150
I agree. No argument from me, but that sure isn't going to happen before the midterms, and
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#156
Which supplemental are you talking about? G, H, or if you are fortunate F. Yes I am including
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#202
Of course they are...they have huge deductibles and out of pocket costs and there premiums
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#166
Depends on which supplemental you have how much out of pocket expenses, and directly related to
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#168
I think Joe Namath has had more tv exposure time in the ads than as a football star.
keithbvadu2
Apr 2022
#57
Yea, it's weird. Honestly, would you ever buy an insurance plan because some FB player or
napi21
Apr 2022
#60
For supplemental F for 2 is $400. No out of pocket deductibles. Part B $170, Part D 200
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#206
Everyone needs to determine their own comfort level and what they can afford. The fact
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#210
I am not manipulating anything. I never said that 1600 was for two people. I said that was
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#212
You didn't say it was for two people, but all your prior numbers were for two people
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#215
I have had a medigap plan for at least 10 years & there haven't been any scams or
napi21
Apr 2022
#162
And you plan is likely no longer available. I suggest you look at what is available and then
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#167
The corresponding new plans do not have out-of-pocket expenses, nor are the deductibles "way higher"
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#209
First of all the premiums can range from 93 to 900 dollars...and they don't include Medicare B...
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#217
That's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people will be stuck with MA once they make that choice.
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#188
Technically you are still on Medicare when you have an Advantage plan because the plan is
in2herbs
Apr 2022
#21
Exactly. One couldn't convert to an Advantage Plan if it wasn't. Also, a lot of
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#126
That is not true. You are still under Medicare or you wouldn't be able to get a Medicare Advantage
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#118
Not true. It is for people who can't afford standard Medicare with a Medigap plan
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#121
I have a lot of trouble understanding the hate for Medicare Advantage.
PoindexterOglethorpe
Apr 2022
#7
I agree with you about Medicare Advantage. My parents had a Medicare Advantage plan and they
skylucy
Apr 2022
#8
I have never enrolled in one of these advantage plans, my wife mother and father had enrolled
turbinetree
Apr 2022
#9
I don't pay a Medicare Advantage premium. What insurance company charges a premium
in2herbs
Apr 2022
#22
On a Plan G supplement, your costs for all care for 2021 would have been $203. n/t.
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#192
The deductible is fixed by the federal government, and is the same nationally.
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#207
Are you talking about the monthly fee for Medicare if your income is above
PoindexterOglethorpe
Apr 2022
#205
Trump started the ball rolling on that while in office and Biden is not stopping it and I
in2herbs
Apr 2022
#23
Didn't read the article, and hate the sales tactics. But, DUers are on Advantage plans
Hoyt
Apr 2022
#34
You keep using this 42% number as if that somehow justifies the programme. If you give people
Celerity
Apr 2022
#42
If you choose MA today, you will almost certainly not be able to get Medicare supplement later on.
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#196
I was very nearly "stupid" enough to choose a Medicare Advantage plan (which would have
Ms. Toad
Apr 2022
#195
The US healthcare system is designed for wealth extraction and redistribution, from the broad base
Celerity
Apr 2022
#19
The reality simply has to change for the better. The current track is headed for a train wreck.
Celerity
Apr 2022
#50
Well, encouraging/rewarding the rapacious for-profit private heath insurance industry to do further
Celerity
Apr 2022
#54
Appreciate criticism and shoddiness of our healthcare system, but it's what we have
Hoyt
Apr 2022
#55
Hoyt, that's so depressing to hear you (a very intelligent person) frame it in such fatalistic terms
Celerity
Apr 2022
#59
People have to deal with the here and now. Regular Medicare has ended their best plans and
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#86
Medi-gap plans are done through private insuerers;they charge large premims, have big deductible and
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#169
I wanted to do regular Medicare and shopped around extensively-$300 or $400 per month
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#170
US healthcare's a scam, EOS, a joke, no one else in the world runs it like the US, for good reason
Celerity
Apr 2022
#178
Rep. Porter is the walking, breathing definition of "servant of the people", a treasure!
bringthePaine
Apr 2022
#32
My big complaint is that Medicare Advantage gets paid more for their coverage from CMS.
halfulglas
Apr 2022
#46
I had an excellent insurance advisor who advised me against using this program. Said it was a scam
Samrob
Apr 2022
#51
Exactly, I found out after having to shell out 2500 for my sister in laws' surgery that there was
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#139
After reading up on it, MA is more of a HMO and it was less risky to pay the Part B for better cover
keithbvadu2
Apr 2022
#58
If you can afford it...many can't. And if you take a bad wraparound...you have to pay the
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#84
Exactly. Understand some people don't like "privatization," but why penalize/bash people who can't
Hoyt
Apr 2022
#92
That is absolutely correct. The medigap policies also come from insurance companies...I
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#141
One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme.
Ron Green
Apr 2022
#66
Many doctors will likely tell you they do not like Medicare Advantage plans because
Emile
Apr 2022
#74
Politicians writing letters that urge a Democratic president to cut medicare funding
lapucelle
Apr 2022
#75
It is fucking insanity...we could lose Congress over this...hope Biden ignores it and only those
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#87
Indeed. Who benefits from the narrative that a Democratic president is cutting Medicare funding?
lapucelle
Apr 2022
#89
I do to...do your job Congress. And please every once in a while remember this is a f'ing
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#142
The one my sis has allow travel...and you have to choose what you can afford. regular medicare ...
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#88
If you buy plans from large insurers, travel is not an issue. People who take a local plan, often
Hoyt
Apr 2022
#93
my Advantage Plan has doctors and hospitals out of area...and I don't think folks don't
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#132
Let's let Biden do the talking from now on. Attacking Medicare Advantage seems foolish to me.
gulliver
Apr 2022
#94
We spend too much time worrying about what the Republicans will say and not doing what's right.
Cuthbert Allgood
Apr 2022
#102
Hell yeah. Go away JJ Walker and Joe Namath. Shove your "CALL NOW" up your ass.
Hotler
Apr 2022
#108
No, that won't happen. You never get back what you get rid of...and there would be hell
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#144
Guess what Katie Porter, straight Medicare with a Medigap has gone up significantly also,
JohnSJ
Apr 2022
#120
Why would she do this now during a midterm...people fearing the loss of the Advantage
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#147
Maybe Ms Porter should look at how expensive it is for regular Medicare and taking away
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#159
Yet again it's the messaging. Rather than offering up an open goal to the GOP, could they not have
OnDoutside
Apr 2022
#160
Sure and we have zero chance of doing that. I want a unicorn too...and have as much change of
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#172
They are representing the millions who want to keep private insurance and don't want
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#175
Her seat was Republicans for years...hope all is well there...we need her to be reelected even
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#174
I think she will be reelected because she's not afraid to govern like a democrat.
Emile
Apr 2022
#179
Sorry I don't see sending Biden notes demanding this or that governing...not in Congress.
Demsrule86
Apr 2022
#218