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mahatmakanejeeves

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53. Got that link right here.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:00 AM
Apr 2022
And for those who think the Ukrainians are indestructible, they're not. Read an interview with a Ukrainian fighter jet pilot who said "We're losing planes daily, they don't talk about it publicly but we are". 1000 Ukrainian Marines surrendered in Mariupol this week including a UK citizen.

Wed Apr 13, 2022: Ukrainian fighter pilots in old jets take on better-equipped Russians

Europe

Ukrainian fighter pilots in old jets take on better-equipped Russians

By Isabelle Khurshudyan
Today at 2:00 a.m. EDT

ODESSA, Ukraine — The fighter pilot known as “Juice” usually just has a few minutes to scramble. When he is on-call, which is pretty much always these days, he cannot be more than a bathroom break away from his cockpit. When a cruise missile or a Russian fighter is spotted moving toward the area Juice is assigned to by the Ukrainian air force, he doesn’t even have time to run through standard safety checks before taking off.

“We’re ready to be killed,” said Juice, who provided only his call sign for security reasons. ... “But we don’t want this, of course,” the 29-year-old added. “We want to kill Russians and take down their bombers that are killing our cities and our families.” ... Juice is one of the pilots helping Ukraine pull off the biggest surprise of this war: Its military has kept the airspace over Ukraine contested despite Russia’s more advanced jets and superior numbers. But he and other pilots say that’s not enough. While Kyiv’s forces have perhaps even outperformed Moscow’s on the ground, Russia has continued to inflict heavy losses on Ukraine from the sky.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has appealed to the United States and other NATO allies to establish a no-fly zone over the country — a step that leaders in the military alliance refused to take, citing fears of touching off a world war with Moscow. Now Zelensky is pushing for more advanced air-defense systems and jets. ... But Juice and others have said the weapons that countries have discussed transferring to Ukraine — particularly Russian-made MiG-29 fighters and U.S.-made Stinger antiaircraft missiles — won’t help Kyiv’s air force tip the scales in its favor. The gap between the weapons Ukraine wants and what Western countries are willing to supply has become a key tension nearly two months into the fighting.

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Analysts at the Oryx Blog, which tracks Russian military losses, documented 20 aircraft and 30 helicopters destroyed or damaged in Ukraine.

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Gift Article
https://wapo.st/37H7LaF

By Isabelle Khurshudyan
Isabelle Khurshudyan is a foreign correspondent based in Moscow. A University of South Carolina graduate, she has worked at The Washington Post since 2014, previously as a sports reporter covering the Washington Capitals, high school sports and local colleges. Twitter https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan

Attack On Europe: Documenting Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

Oryx Thursday, February 24, 2022 Bayraktar TB2 , DNR

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Are the Russians willing to admit the Ukrainians sunk it? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2022 #1
Doubtful... WarGamer Apr 2022 #2
Seems like it would be hard to make a rallying cry out of "we had an accident." Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2022 #3
in the Kremlin at this very moment they're probably working on how to propagandize it. WarGamer Apr 2022 #4
"Remember The Unfortunate Turn of Events!" Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2022 #7
😂 EX500rider Apr 2022 #25
Yes if this clip is any indication: femmedem Apr 2022 #35
that's what I thought... WarGamer Apr 2022 #36
So, it sunk by chance of the weather? then why are they crying about Ukraine. Tetrachloride Apr 2022 #6
Russian TV pundits are calling it a casus belli pecosbob Apr 2022 #31
Putrid still wants this to look like a special operation small scale skirmish uponit7771 Apr 2022 #5
You say the Russians won't go home a loser. I say this will work... brush Apr 2022 #8
If there are negotiations and Russia gains land... they'll declare victory. WarGamer Apr 2022 #10
The world already knows they lost in their attempt to take the... brush Apr 2022 #13
NATO will grow in less than 2 months FakeNoose Apr 2022 #12
this war has shown that Russia can't attack NATO. WarGamer Apr 2022 #15
Putin could go in with even heavier weaponry. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #9
Remember when all the Righties and War Hawks were chanting for the US to "Bomb Iran?" TheBlackAdder Apr 2022 #50
I would guess that once the "blitzkrieg" failed... orwell Apr 2022 #11
the whole thing was incredibly stupid on the part of Russia WarGamer Apr 2022 #14
I still don't understand what he thought he would gain... orwell Apr 2022 #19
agreed WarGamer Apr 2022 #21
Agreed fully Calculating Apr 2022 #43
Putin just purged his military leadership gaskinite Apr 2022 #17
It looks like he may have tried... orwell Apr 2022 #20
It's too bad that Shoigu didn't take him out first. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #45
There's the quick... orwell Apr 2022 #49
It sure has to be a morale builder. Chainfire Apr 2022 #16
as an aside... WarGamer Apr 2022 #18
As a Navy vet, one thing that I learned was that it was not the size of a bomb Chainfire Apr 2022 #22
yeah, you're right of course... WarGamer Apr 2022 #23
Not terribly applicable here, Slava class ships are nearly unarmored Amishman Apr 2022 #42
So are you saying Ukraine should surrender? Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #24
If I was asked to guess WHICH DU'er would post what you just posted... WarGamer Apr 2022 #26
Non responsive. Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #27
rofl... WarGamer Apr 2022 #28
Yeah except you posted Russia would NEVER (all caps yours) Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #30
They will fight until they "claim" a victory. Probably after wrecking half the country. WarGamer Apr 2022 #33
Send troops in what vehicles? With what morale? NickB79 Apr 2022 #29
We'll see... WarGamer Apr 2022 #34
Air strikes may become suicidal as nations send in AAW systems to UKR Kaleva Apr 2022 #46
And if Putin had easily taken Ukraine, then he'd have just gone on to his next target pnwmom Apr 2022 #32
I think I see only one way for Putin to claim victory. SmallFry Apr 2022 #37
I think you overestimate Putin's control Red Mountain Apr 2022 #38
I agree with your statements, this war will go on, Russia can never admit defeat, no matter the cost Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2022 #39
Overly pessimistic. BootinUp Apr 2022 #40
You seem overly sure of what the Russians will do. honest.abe Apr 2022 #41
There's going to be some sort of retaliation. Liberal In Texas Apr 2022 #44
Malcom Nance seems to agree with you LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #47
yeah sure jcgoldie Apr 2022 #48
Fuck Putler and fuck Russia. roamer65 Apr 2022 #51
While on that subject Chainfire Apr 2022 #52
Royally fucked. roamer65 Apr 2022 #54
Got that link right here. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2022 #53
Russia doesn't have the manpower or materiel to control Ukraine SoonerPride Apr 2022 #55
Muh Russia is ten feet tall DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2022 #56
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