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46. The far-left is pro-Putin and illiberal as much as the far-right is.

Mon Feb 28, 2022, 03:11 PM

Feb 2022

The far-left hates the West due to the expansion of capitalism and the MIC.
The far-right hates the West due to the expansion of diversity and rights for non-whites.
Putin hates the West due to the expansion of democracies and the weakening of autocracies like his.

Putin funds all of the fringe movements; they've found common cause though their motivations are different. They tend to view Putin as their hero in counterbalancing the US. They all fear NATO and the EU due to their role in expanding and defending Western military and economic interests.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] ColinC Feb 2022 OP

UKR social media campaign against Putler has been devistating they're trying to fight back. Sounds.. uponit7771 Feb 2022 #1

Agree MLAA Feb 2022 #2

There is a lot of that, but even folks like Crystal Ball, etc. Seem to be saying wacky shit ColinC Feb 2022 #7

You mean the same Krystal Ball who was furious when AkFemDem Feb 2022 #16

Yeah that one. I knew she was batshit but not ColinC Feb 2022 #21

Chris Hedges has had quite a bit to say about Russia being "baited" into war. shrike3 Feb 2022 #3

So weird. In that case the USSR should have invaded ColinC Feb 2022 #14

A friend shared one of his articles with me. shrike3 Feb 2022 #17

It feels like a lot of good people including hedges have lost their way ColinC Feb 2022 #28

Yes, it's a shame, because he had a lot of good sense once upon a time. shrike3 Feb 2022 #43

He literally wrote "war is a force that gives us meaning." ColinC Feb 2022 #47

Well, not bandwagoning, really. shrike3 Feb 2022 #53

Fair enough ColinC Feb 2022 #54

I know it sucks. I'm just trying to be as fair as possible. Hedges used to be a good commentator. shrike3 Feb 2022 #58

Which "Progressives" are you talking about? n/t BlueGreenLady Feb 2022 #4

Progressive.org I have no idea wtf that is. ColinC Feb 2022 #11

Rolf. Krystal Ball, well that explains a lot. Budi Feb 2022 #29

Thank you! I don't understand it much and I'm trying to figure it out. ColinC Feb 2022 #34

It's a magazine founded by the LaFollettes. Link to the article you're talking about? WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #33

Here ColinC Feb 2022 #35

Okay, an op-ed from two CODEPINK members, unsurprising. It's hardly "so many progressives," though. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #36

More than 1 is too many to me. More than 2 is "so many" ColinC Feb 2022 #41

Ukraine should join NATO and no one should be allowed to interfere. JasonMain Feb 2022 #5

Ukraine atm (and this was the case before the Russian invasions as well) doesn't meet Celerity Feb 2022 #19

Then I wonder what is Pootie so worried about? treestar Feb 2022 #44

He doesn't want it to eventually happen. He is in ever deepening states of paranoia. Celerity Feb 2022 #51

Link? Arazi Feb 2022 #6

Trolls .... Lovie777 Feb 2022 #8

First I ever heard about progressives backing Putin nt doc03 Feb 2022 #9

Not a whole lot. Just a few somewhat prominent figures ColinC Feb 2022 #24

Anti-Democratic, generally populist groups identifying "progressive" but with Hortensis Feb 2022 #31

One article? Is there more or is this a soft lob to initiate some progressive bashing? LT Barclay Feb 2022 #10

The latter. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #27

Frustrating Bettie Feb 2022 #65

Greenwald, Gabbard, progressive.org, Krystal Ball, Chris hedges ColinC Feb 2022 #39

Chris Hedges. It's apparently all NATO's fault. shrike3 Feb 2022 #50

Progressive.com is an American auto insurance site Celerity Feb 2022 #12

Progressive.org ColinC Feb 2022 #22

Oki, I went there. What article? A link in your OP would be most helpful. Celerity Feb 2022 #26

I don't want to share it in the op because it is a misleading article ColinC Feb 2022 #37

Well, that article is not doing what you claimed in the OP, as it was written weeks before Celerity Feb 2022 #57

Thank you. I think I might have jumped the gun on this. ColinC Feb 2022 #66

Great. Now I just switched my auto insurance thanks to you. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2022 #48

... ColinC Feb 2022 #49

Hope I saved you a few quid! Celerity Feb 2022 #60

What you're missing is those are idiots. They might as well... brush Feb 2022 #13

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #59

Got a link? ZenDem Feb 2022 #15

Progressive.org ColinC Feb 2022 #25

They've fallen for Russian Propaganda JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #18

They're getting appropriately called out. As in WTF. Budi Feb 2022 #20

There are those on the putative left, like Glenn Greenwald and Tulsi Gabbard, Ocelot II Feb 2022 #23

So true. A lot of actors hide various goals behind the term "progressive" Hortensis Feb 2022 #61

They are believing the Russky disinformation that has been targetted at them - this is how Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2022 #30

The Progressive magazine is based in Madison Wisconsin Tetrachloride Feb 2022 #32

There has always been a small group of people on the left who support anyone... Caliman73 Feb 2022 #38

This is actually not new... orwell Feb 2022 #40

Orwell's 'Notes On Nationalism', Sir, Remains Evergreen The Magistrate Feb 2022 #42

Sorry, not finding any such article on progressive.org Pls be careful ev and check things Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2022 #45

Here ColinC Feb 2022 #52

The far-left is pro-Putin and illiberal as much as the far-right is. radius777 Feb 2022 #46

I mean I identify with the far left and none of the things you mention ColinC Feb 2022 #62

Started with Victoria Nuland's cookies. OilemFirchen Feb 2022 #55

There has always been this group who are mainly conspiracy theists and grifters JI7 Feb 2022 #56

Consortium News is being its usual self. shrike3 Feb 2022 #63

Before Russia invaded, but had several giant armies amassed on various Ukrainian borders Sapient Donkey Feb 2022 #64