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Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
7. The expectation from experts is that leaders will follow "norms".
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 02:44 PM
Feb 2022

It is the same thing that plagues Democrats here in the US with regards to the rise of an ever more radical right wing / Republican faction.

The expectation is that people will follow the normal rules of engagement that have held together, the peace, or the stability of nations / foreign relations, for the past century or decades.

When you have people who are willing to "cheat" or simply forego how people customarily relate to one another, then you have this surprise. It is the same reason that people get so shocked when confronting psychopaths, who simply "do not care" about the damage they cause. We expect people to have some form of empathy, some form of self restraint because if we all operated on the level of a Putin, Right wing GOP, or psychopaths, then we would eventually have chaos and the only thing that would matter is the projection of force.

As it stands our veneer of "civility" is relatively thin. It does not take very much to push us into a "survival mode" where our more "animal nature" takes over. We have many among us, and disproportionately in positions of power, who operate under those mores.

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Not to mention the terrible truth Putin missed about NATO and the world. Sneederbunk Feb 2022 #1
and here's the irony. I'm not an expert nor am I a world leader, yet as an amateur historian... Javaman Feb 2022 #2
People far removed from decision-making often know more than the deciders bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #4
If you were reading the geopolitical situation then it was an absurdly stupid thing to do localroger Feb 2022 #12
Right before WWII, George Orwell wrote to a friend... First Speaker Feb 2022 #23
I admit... I thought he was bluffing. Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #3
What I Don't Actually See In This Article Is... Me. Feb 2022 #5
A LOT of people are either ignoring that or downplaying it. US intelligence got that one right./ Ursus Rex Feb 2022 #9
👆 The partisan lean to downgrading or ignoring anything Biden says crickets Feb 2022 #15
Agree Me. Feb 2022 #17
+1. Biden, Blinket et al warned the world, radius777 Feb 2022 #18
Let's not forget the President of Ukraine was one of those who did not believe the intelligence. former9thward Feb 2022 #26
America was telling the world weeks in advance Russia was preparing to invade. JasonMain Feb 2022 #6
Yep--there was right-wing sneering and laughter when the Biden Administration Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #20
The President of Ukraine also sneered. former9thward Feb 2022 #27
He presumably had domestic reasons Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #29
The expectation from experts is that leaders will follow "norms". Caliman73 Feb 2022 #7
Yeah and the Dotard and his minions don't follow norms either. raccoon Feb 2022 #10
No they do not. Caliman73 Feb 2022 #13
Well said. crickets Feb 2022 #19
I didn't expect a large-scale invasion EYESORE 9001 Feb 2022 #8
I wonder if these are the same experts who were caught flat-footed raccoon Feb 2022 #11
President V. Zelenskyy was elected in 2019, and he already knew that Putin would invade FakeNoose Feb 2022 #14
The unpredicibality of Putin probaly means he is operating irrationally. Chainfire Feb 2022 #16
Which is why we need to be fully ready for WWIII. radius777 Feb 2022 #21
Oh great. LisaL Feb 2022 #22
Maybe I should be an "expert" sarisataka Feb 2022 #24
All experts of course realize that one dictatorial ruler can Hortensis Feb 2022 #25
Biden was telling us ibegurpard Feb 2022 #28
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