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Nevilledog

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Mon Feb 28, 2022, 02:27 PM Feb 2022

The Terrible Truth So Many Experts Missed About Russia [View all]




https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/02/ukraine-invasion-putin-is-ruling-alone.html

The belief that Vladimir Putin was bluffing, that he would never give the order for the nearly 200,000-man army he had spent months amassing on the borders of Ukraine to invade, persisted as late as 5:45 a.m. Moscow time the day of the attack, when, grimacing in a red tie, Russia’s ruler of almost 23 years announced in a prerecorded statement what he called “a special military operation.”

This was not just a shock on American political Twitter. It was a shock to many of the leading experts and policymakers in the United States, Europe, and even Ukraine. The head of German intelligence was so caught off guard that he was still in Kyiv and had to be evacuated.

But nowhere did the shock feel more profound than among foreign policy analysts in Russia, where overwhelming consensus, until that very moment, had been that Putin would never launch such a war.

Even someone as experienced as Sir John Sawers, former head of the British intelligence agency MI6—the role codenamed C in the James Bond universe—told me just a week before the invasion began: “The idea that Putin was actually going to invade the whole of Ukraine, topple the Kyiv government, and occupy the whole country, for years to come—I never thought that that was a realistic prospect.”

Among even the leaders who had spent weeks warning a major offensive was imminent, a tone of surprise was not too hard to detect in their statements. “I cannot believe this is being done in your name,” said British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, trying to address, for a moment, the Russian people, “or that you really want the pariah status it will bring to the Putin regime.”

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Not to mention the terrible truth Putin missed about NATO and the world. Sneederbunk Feb 2022 #1
and here's the irony. I'm not an expert nor am I a world leader, yet as an amateur historian... Javaman Feb 2022 #2
People far removed from decision-making often know more than the deciders bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #4
If you were reading the geopolitical situation then it was an absurdly stupid thing to do localroger Feb 2022 #12
Right before WWII, George Orwell wrote to a friend... First Speaker Feb 2022 #23
I admit... I thought he was bluffing. Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #3
What I Don't Actually See In This Article Is... Me. Feb 2022 #5
A LOT of people are either ignoring that or downplaying it. US intelligence got that one right./ Ursus Rex Feb 2022 #9
👆 The partisan lean to downgrading or ignoring anything Biden says crickets Feb 2022 #15
Agree Me. Feb 2022 #17
+1. Biden, Blinket et al warned the world, radius777 Feb 2022 #18
Let's not forget the President of Ukraine was one of those who did not believe the intelligence. former9thward Feb 2022 #26
America was telling the world weeks in advance Russia was preparing to invade. JasonMain Feb 2022 #6
Yep--there was right-wing sneering and laughter when the Biden Administration Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #20
The President of Ukraine also sneered. former9thward Feb 2022 #27
He presumably had domestic reasons Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #29
The expectation from experts is that leaders will follow "norms". Caliman73 Feb 2022 #7
Yeah and the Dotard and his minions don't follow norms either. raccoon Feb 2022 #10
No they do not. Caliman73 Feb 2022 #13
Well said. crickets Feb 2022 #19
I didn't expect a large-scale invasion EYESORE 9001 Feb 2022 #8
I wonder if these are the same experts who were caught flat-footed raccoon Feb 2022 #11
President V. Zelenskyy was elected in 2019, and he already knew that Putin would invade FakeNoose Feb 2022 #14
The unpredicibality of Putin probaly means he is operating irrationally. Chainfire Feb 2022 #16
Which is why we need to be fully ready for WWIII. radius777 Feb 2022 #21
Oh great. LisaL Feb 2022 #22
Maybe I should be an "expert" sarisataka Feb 2022 #24
All experts of course realize that one dictatorial ruler can Hortensis Feb 2022 #25
Biden was telling us ibegurpard Feb 2022 #28
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