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mnhtnbb

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53. Unlike 2008, inventory is a big part of the problem this time.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 11:31 AM
Feb 2022

This is a good read and I recommend the entire article.

The wounds from the Great Recession of the mid-2000s are still healing, especially when it comes to housing. An estimated 10 million people lost their homes to foreclosure from 2006 to 2014, following a period of frenzied and speculative homebuying fueled by easy credit. The housing market is yet again on a tear with home prices up nearly 19% nationally compared with last year, and that has people rightfully worried that another housing bubble is brewing.

Unlike the last housing boom, one could argue that home price growth since the start of the pandemic was justifiable. The demographics of the U.S. were already supporting housing growth and the desire to own only increased as people saved more and spent more time at home. The lifestyle change brought on by the pandemic caused many Americans to reassess their living arrangements, including some renters that turned into house hunters and some existing homeowners that sold to move into a larger home.

The jump in homebuying demand hit right as existing housing supply declined rapidly for a variety of reasons, including fear of COVID-19. Homebuilders, most of whom became more prudent following the last cycle, were cautious with how many homes they were bringing to the market, resulting in equally tight new home inventory.

The supply and demand mismatch pushed prices upward, but that was just the tip of the iceberg for rising home values. Some Americans became much wealthier over the past year following a 31% run-up in the S&P 500 and a nearly 20% jump in home equity. Others became wealthier on a relative basis as remote work led to increased migration, often from higher cost areas to lower cost ones.

Further, safety measures have been put in place since the Great Recession to help prevent a similar housing collapse. Mortgage credit availability is starkly tighter than in the mid-2000s and the often more risky adjustable rate mortgages represent less than 5% of total purchase and refinanced loans compared with over 35% at the peak of the last cycle.

https://fortune.com/2021/09/09/housing-bubble-2008-market-correction-great-recession/
Kick dalton99a Feb 2022 #1
People make mistakes all the time. elleng Feb 2022 #2
difference is that extreme competition impacted decision Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #3
Why 'extreme competition?' elleng Feb 2022 #4
inventory was very low Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #5
properties were selling within a day or two after listing giving buyer little time to decide Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #6
What caused this market 'change,' if it was a change? elleng Feb 2022 #7
If it was similar to other markets, probably two main factors DFW Feb 2022 #9
Thanks, makes sense that labor shortage might result in such 'weird' (to me) behavior. elleng Feb 2022 #11
Nor am I DFW Feb 2022 #13
LOLOLOL! elleng Feb 2022 #16
Yeah, the interest rates are a big factor. Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #12
You might not have to move that far DFW Feb 2022 #19
I've heard.good things about Dallas. Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #21
Dallas is definitely a blue island in a mostly red sea DFW Feb 2022 #22
Yeah, wherever we go, there are pluses and minuses. Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #43
Even when interests rates rise again, it will cause a long hangover in housing Amishman Feb 2022 #34
This is why I am suspicious of those who think housing prices will collapse. cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #50
Unlike 2008, inventory is a big part of the problem this time. mnhtnbb Feb 2022 #53
The rates have been stable for a decade. Mosby Feb 2022 #54
Another issue is all the properties that left the market in the foreclosures Sherman A1 Feb 2022 #17
True: too much money chasing too little inventory DFW Feb 2022 #20
Yeah. I couldn't go down that road a second time ecstatic Feb 2022 #8
Same with me, I bought in 2003 near the height of the market and it's been a long time to get equity TheBlackAdder Feb 2022 #55
From what I read many of these buyers LittleGirl Feb 2022 #10
Inspection is a complete waste of time. I don't even bother. Most of those who call themselves Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #29
Sounds like you had a crap inspector. My inspector, on both my property purchases, Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #32
It is a waste of time...you can check most things you can see yourself before you make an offer. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #35
Nope. As I said, I have found it to be extremely valuable. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #36
Well to each their own. I have not found inspections useful unless you are trying to get the price Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #38
So you have said. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #40
My experience is that those home warranties LittleGirl Feb 2022 #42
That depends on the Warranty. I negotiated one with the Wisconsin House when we bought it Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #44
I've never bought a house that didn't come with problems. Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #56
Good advice. I'd never buy anything without an inspection. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #31
I completely disagree...most of the folks I know including family members had inspections... Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #37
Yes, Demsrule. I know you disagree. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #39
It is based on years of experience. Most people don't buy and sell as many houses as I have. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #46
most people do not have an expert family friend or know what they are looking at themselves. uncle ray Feb 2022 #49
The eventuality will find many of these buyers upside down EarthFirst Feb 2022 #14
Those upside down buyers if they don't need to sell are usually fine...Real-estate is up since 2008 Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #30
Prices won't retreat, at best they'll stagnate Amishman Feb 2022 #52
I am not sure these -percentages are all that much different in any particular year. cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #15
Good point True Dough Feb 2022 #23
Scarce supply facing increased demand mnhtnbb Feb 2022 #18
In 2007/2008 the same thing happened. There was a bubble, people paid too much and Vinca Feb 2022 #24
But those houses are worth more today than they were in 07 and 08. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #47
There is always second guessing after making such a huge commitment Sympthsical Feb 2022 #25
Exactly right, and why my partner in crime (house flipping) made more money than he ever made Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #28
That is fairly common...so common there is a name for it...buyers remorse. I have bought Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #26
And I will say, we still have very little inventory here...so it continues. I take everything Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #27
I don't know about you guys but onethatcares Feb 2022 #33
Right? MissB Feb 2022 #45
As a child who was expected to help out on Grandpa's farm I get that. I would never buy a Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #48
we bought and downsized right before the plague onethatcares Feb 2022 #51
Good for you. Your new house sounds great. I suggestn square foot gardening and you can also Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #60
three years in. onethatcares Feb 2022 #61
Ditto. I spent my childhood on one. shrike3 Feb 2022 #64
Don't they still have to maintain it, even as an Air BnB? Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #57
They were probably unaware that cows poop shrike3 Feb 2022 #65
Five acres and two cows, LOL shrike3 Feb 2022 #63
Great response from a reader... tenderfoot Feb 2022 #58
Ugh. "I'm hungry for pasta, I'm going to Rome for three days"-- Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #59
Sounds like the NYT to me. shrike3 Feb 2022 #62
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