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In reply to the discussion: Most Americans Don't Want War With Russia. Where Are Progressives? [View all]radius777
(3,921 posts)43. Ukraine is 'NATO allied' and should be a NATO member
and only isn't due to the West appeasing Putin.
https://www.quora.com/Why-doesn%E2%80%99t-Ukraine-join-NATO
Ukraine would like to be a member. However NATO has a rule which prevents membership if there is an ongoing conflict, because this would require all other members to join in the conflict.
The conflict is of course with Russia, who invaded and annexed Crimea, and then invaded Donbass region of East Ukraine and continues aggression with attacks almost everyday despite a ceasefire agreement.
But despite this, Ukraine participates in joint exercises with NATO, gets defensive weapons from members including USA. It seems inevitable that Ukraine will join someday, despite Putins objections. That is because Putin only invades non-NATO nations.
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Before the Russian aggression towards Ukraine, Ukraine was not able to join NATO because Russia opposed.
After the Russian aggression towards Ukraine (2014), Ukraine was not able to join NATO because Ukraine has no control over all its territories.
It is up to Ukraine now. If the Ukrainian Parliament (the Rada) writes off all the territories already in the mouth of the Bear as irretrievable, then Ukraine will be granted NATO-membership the next day
Ukraine would like to be a member. However NATO has a rule which prevents membership if there is an ongoing conflict, because this would require all other members to join in the conflict.
The conflict is of course with Russia, who invaded and annexed Crimea, and then invaded Donbass region of East Ukraine and continues aggression with attacks almost everyday despite a ceasefire agreement.
But despite this, Ukraine participates in joint exercises with NATO, gets defensive weapons from members including USA. It seems inevitable that Ukraine will join someday, despite Putins objections. That is because Putin only invades non-NATO nations.
...
Before the Russian aggression towards Ukraine, Ukraine was not able to join NATO because Russia opposed.
After the Russian aggression towards Ukraine (2014), Ukraine was not able to join NATO because Ukraine has no control over all its territories.
It is up to Ukraine now. If the Ukrainian Parliament (the Rada) writes off all the territories already in the mouth of the Bear as irretrievable, then Ukraine will be granted NATO-membership the next day
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Most former Warsaw Pact members are now members of NATO, so they are covered by treaty.
Klaralven
Jan 2022
#9
It's what I've been thinking as well, Chin music. At some point Uncle Sam's word ...
Hekate
Jan 2022
#26
Putin is attacking the EU the way he's attacking the US: with propaganda and cyber-weapons
Hekate
Jan 2022
#39
Didn't mean to be snarky about my search; just indicating there's a lot--and a lot I needed reminding
Hekate
Jan 2022
#41
Curious article, the author seems to be taking issue w/ progs taking stances that 80+% of DU agrees
Celerity
Jan 2022
#17