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muriel_volestrangler

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36. You need to express yourself better

Sun Jan 30, 2022, 09:19 PM

Jan 2022

because its comes across as you not understanding what NATO is, but you thinking it obliges the USA to go to war over a Russian invasion of Ukraine. Since you've been told it doesn't, then clearly your position is now unexplained. No-one knows what you think apart from you.

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Most Americans Don't Want War With Russia. Where Are Progressives? [View all] Klaralven Jan 2022 OP

We made a treaty w NATO partners. Chin music Jan 2022 #1

This is where I am as well Bettie Jan 2022 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #4

The US has no treaty obligation with respect to Ukraine Klaralven Jan 2022 #6

So, you think it would be cool to allow Bettie Jan 2022 #7

Most former Warsaw Pact members are now members of NATO, so they are covered by treaty. Klaralven Jan 2022 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #10

That's the point I was planning to make Bettie Jan 2022 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #14

Ukraine is not a NATO member Klaralven Jan 2022 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #16

I don't know what you mean muriel_volestrangler Jan 2022 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #35

You need to express yourself better muriel_volestrangler Jan 2022 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #46

Ukraine is 'NATO allied' and should be a NATO member radius777 Jan 2022 #43

But they're not n/t Polybius Jan 2022 #49

No war period. Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #32

It's what I've been thinking as well, Chin music. At some point Uncle Sam's word ... Hekate Jan 2022 #26

Re: staring down the jaws of the Russian Bear... Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #38

Putin is attacking the EU the way he's attacking the US: with propaganda and cyber-weapons Hekate Jan 2022 #39

"Security assurances" as presented in your post is a bit vague. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #40

Didn't mean to be snarky about my search; just indicating there's a lot--and a lot I needed reminding Hekate Jan 2022 #41

We have no treaty with Ukraine. former9thward Jan 2022 #31

Ukraine isn't in NATO Polybius Jan 2022 #48

To defend the West and democracy, radius777 Jan 2022 #53

Screw that Polybius Jan 2022 #54

It's not about nation building like Iraq was, which was a war of choice. radius777 Feb 2022 #62

The Ukraine isn't in NATO iemanja Jan 2022 #55

Yep, this is apples and oranges. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2022 #61

America is a one party system when it comes to war. Magoo48 Jan 2022 #3

Russia is already at war with us. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #5

We were the Ukraine when Trump was President. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #11

Calling it "the Ukraine" is Soviet speak -- stop that, please. W_HAMILTON Jan 2022 #30

Ok Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #37

Progressives trust Biden's leadership on Russia wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #13

Curious article, the author seems to be taking issue w/ progs taking stances that 80+% of DU agrees Celerity Jan 2022 #17

We now have a President with other tools .... albacore Jan 2022 #18

Yep. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #20

Good points Hekate Jan 2022 #27

+1 crickets Jan 2022 #29

Anybody who wants to play the Ghandian role and lay in front of Russian tanks has my support. tirebiter Jan 2022 #19

I have cousins distant but still family in Czech Republic. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #22

How are they doing now? Klaralven Jan 2022 #23

Ok. Texaswitchy Jan 2022 #25

All the best to them Hekate Jan 2022 #28

I'm certainly not on the Russian side... albacore Jan 2022 #33

There isn't going to be war with Russia iemanja Jan 2022 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #24

Media Issue. They're fake not-pushing for War with Russia. haele Jan 2022 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #45

"war" is a Strawman amaico Jan 2022 #44

This should be handled by the European Union and we need to Emile Jan 2022 #47

NOBODY IS ARGUING WE SHOULD BE ATTACKING RUSSIA. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #50

Thank you! nt GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #60

I wasn't aware we were going to war with Russia... brooklynite Jan 2022 #51

It's a Strawman poll amaico Jan 2022 #52

Some folks posted elsewhere here on DU ... electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2022 #57

Putin is working to destabilize Ukraine from within first. Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2022 #58

+1. Putin is waging information warfare across the globe. radius777 Feb 2022 #63