Most Americans Don't Want War With Russia. Where Are Progressives?

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26. It's what I've been thinking as well, Chin music. At some point Uncle Sam's word ...

…is not going to be worth jack shit. Trump did us profound damage in that regard, starting with pulling us out of treaties and agreements negotiated and signed by past administrations, especially Obama’s. Lest we forget, it was Trump who ended the war in Afghanistan in such a half-assed manner, leaving it for Biden to deal with.

NATO is absolutely foundational, and if I understand correctly, its provisions have only been called on once: to help America after 9-11.

The point of the Ukraine problem — well there’s several, but let me start with Uncle Sam’s word of honor: after the breakup of the USSR, Ukraine was left with incredible amounts of nuclear weaponry put there by Russia and pointed towards Europe. We said: you get rid of all this (or permit it to be gotten rid of) and don’t you worry, WE will take care of YOU.

And now look at us. Just look at us.

Other than that — well, our NATO partners are staring down the jaws of the Russian Bear as it decides who to eat next. Russia is doing to the EU what it has been doing to America — trying to break it up by any means necessary.

And thanks to Trump, all of America’s isolationist tendencies have kicked in again: same as prior to WWI and WWII.

No, I do not “like” war — what sane person does? But we have been attacked repeatedly and have been nearly overthrown from within with Russia’s enthusiastic help.