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Piedras

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18. Calif. absentee voter, partially because then you vote on a paper ballot, not on a black box
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:32 PM
Oct 2012

I'm a California permanent absentee voter, otherwise known as a vote by mail voter. It's easier. More accurate. There's more time to fill out the ballot. I can research candidates or issues I may be unsure about. Can vote early by mail, or turn in my ballot on election day at a local polling place. I have more trust in a paper ballot than than I do in an unverifiable "black box."

Why did we do away with paper ballots? [View all] Binders Keepers Oct 2012 OP
We still have them LuckyStrykes Oct 2012 #1
Yep. charlyvi Oct 2012 #7
Threw me for a loop, too. LuckyStrykes Oct 2012 #10
And in Iowa. We have paper ballots. Skidmore Oct 2012 #40
dems and repubs selling out to corporations in return for "donations"? nt msongs Oct 2012 #2
Why did we do away with punch cards? DCBob Oct 2012 #3
Paper ballots are the law here in Wisconsin. PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #4
Then sadly fed into a scanner that records your vote exactly as the manufacturer instructed. Scuba Oct 2012 #23
but at least you have the ability to do an actual recount. stlsaxman Oct 2012 #26
Cause progress is better, don'tcha know? justiceischeap Oct 2012 #5
Hanging chads. milestogo Oct 2012 #6
The people who make machines that tally votes of course... n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2012 #8
I think the best thing is a scanable paper ballot. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #9
And by the way, I DO mean mandatory hand count. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #11
There is no reason for a scanner. Just count them. Fast is mainingless, accurate is mandatory. Scuba Oct 2012 #24
There's no reason NOT to scan them, though, if there's a mandatory handcount immediately after. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #27
Disagree. Announcing a "winner" before any official result (handcount) just sets us up for trouble. Scuba Oct 2012 #33
Double checking marions ghost Oct 2012 #28
a must read; The Best Democracy Money Can Buy upi402 Oct 2012 #12
Ohioan here - voted on a paper ballot last week. CitizenLeft Oct 2012 #13
31 states have Legislation / Regulation Requiring Paper Ballots PeaceNikki Oct 2012 #14
I just voted on paper Iwasthere Oct 2012 #15
One way they sold this to the public was "speed in reporting results". napi21 Oct 2012 #16
We still have them - they are cardboard really. Optical scanner reads them. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #17
Calif. absentee voter, partially because then you vote on a paper ballot, not on a black box Piedras Oct 2012 #18
Arizona...we have them. StarryNite Oct 2012 #19
Too much "democracy" is a trick for killing true democracy ProgressiveEconomist Oct 2012 #20
I work at my local polls here in California Mr.Bill Oct 2012 #21
Still have em in Oregon, condoleeza Oct 2012 #22
Too hard to rig.... Junkdrawer Oct 2012 #25
I don't know, why did you do away with your paper ballots? We use them in Oregon Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #29
Remember the hanging chads? lunatica Oct 2012 #30
Not really accurate. E voting machines started coming in before 2000, and the first Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #42
Cost oldhippie Oct 2012 #31
Because protests would be met with, "You're old, and change is scary." WinkyDink Oct 2012 #32
Actually, cheating with paper ballots is just as possible. mucifer Oct 2012 #34
Any system can be cheated, but 'just as possible' is simply not the case. Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #43
We have paper ballots in NC. mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #35
Minnesota still uses paper ballots, MineralMan Oct 2012 #36
I started voting in the late 70s and we always had mechanical voting machines. FSogol Oct 2012 #37
Here in CT we have them. They are large cards that are put through a scanner but they have CTyankee Oct 2012 #38
Everything had to be computerized treestar Oct 2012 #39
"Knucklehead"-I don't think so. It was done to make it easier to steal an election. hobbit709 Oct 2012 #41
could be ballet box stuffing? ThomThom Oct 2012 #44
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