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graham4anything

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6. the NEW congress, not the current one

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:38 PM

Oct 2012

and if he pulls out of some states, they will lose more house seats

plus there are 2 states where 1 electoral vote might go to Obama

and Gary Johnson looms

if mitt shows he is out of Ohio, johnson is going to be more of a factor

And Goode in Virginia
Most polls are not showing either of them

and Obama is oging to win Florida and Virginia, though he don't have to

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Romney's 269 Electoral Vote Strategy Will Begin This Weekend. [View all] David Zephyr Oct 2012 OP

Under this scenario aaaaaa5a Oct 2012 #1

The VP has no real power. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #8

Forget about issuing tiebreakers jmowreader Oct 2012 #80

Senate will change the rules brooklynite Oct 2012 #96

Only if Obama is reelected jmowreader Oct 2012 #98

The tiebreaker vote is a Constitutional thing... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #100

Why Biden? Why not Obama? Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #31

The Senate has to pick either Biden or Ryan. nsd Oct 2012 #55

No way Obama would agree to be Robme's VP BainsBane Oct 2012 #86

Don't think so. They have no viable option unc70 Oct 2012 #2

Read the OP. They will leave the "appearance" of a full strategy. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #7

He has no way. Not this one, not a direct one. No way. unc70 Oct 2012 #16

Read the OP. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #25

Read it, of course. Neither 269 or 270 happens unc70 Oct 2012 #66

Not likely. Nevada is looking very good for Obama. To even 'quietly' pull out of Ohio WI_DEM Oct 2012 #3

Romney can't win Ohio. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #42

Nevada? Hmmm, isn't that where Sheldon Adelson lurks amidst the Republican Casinos? Berlum Oct 2012 #85

Nevada is already gone for Romney. Remember how Reid couldn't win - but he did, easily. Pirate Smile Oct 2012 #4

Reid is Mormon. So is Romney. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #9

He might have run there because he's behind Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #20

Romney has to run there. He can't win otherwise. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #35

You seem very invested in this scenario Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #54

he didnt barely win.... Reid won by 6 points scheming daemons Oct 2012 #36

I believe President Obama will win Nevada. Colorado, I'm not so sure about. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #43

If Obama wins OH (very, very likely), WI (almost certain), and IA or NV he gets 271 SWTORFanatic Oct 2012 #49

Look at the 2008 and 2010 Senate polling aaaaaa5a Oct 2012 #10

Exactly. Melman, who polled for Reid in 2010, is polling for Obama and says he is up 5-8% Pirate Smile Oct 2012 #21

+1 ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #77

It Is Still A Hail Mary Pass.... SingleSeatBiggerMeat Oct 2012 #5

Just watch where Romney campaigns starting this weekend, especially next week. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #12

the NEW congress, not the current one graham4anything Oct 2012 #6

Show me one scenario where the Democrats take back the House. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #17

Mitt needs to win ALL the swing states. While yes in theory, if he don't win Ohio, the graham4anything Oct 2012 #62

iirc, Dems need to return a bit more than 1/3 of the seats we lost in 2010 to take the house 0rganism Oct 2012 #74

We are actually in better shape in NV than in Ohio dsc Oct 2012 #11

Romney can't win. The early voting in Ohio killed him there. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #37

Are you thinking the Nevada polls are wrong? dsc Oct 2012 #44

I believe President Obama will win Nevada and Iowa. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #75

If Obama wins OH, NV, and IA BainsBane Oct 2012 #87

I agree and believe Obama will win all three. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #90

Extremely risky. 270 is far safer. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #13

that may their best option.. but its still a very unlikely one. DCBob Oct 2012 #14

Agreed. 270has always been an extremely long shot for mitt. 269 is just a morningfog Oct 2012 #19

He won't take IA or NV, but I don't disagree that this may be his strategy. morningfog Oct 2012 #15

It's narrowed in Colorado because he is spending money there and time. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #22

Romney ain't winning Nevada, period. ncav53 Oct 2012 #18

I don't think he will win Nevada. It's his only road. He can't get 270. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #41

Obama wins with 271..no Iowa...no Colorado...no Nevada SoCalDem Oct 2012 #23

2 from NE? krawhitham Oct 2012 #28

Yep..he got them last time too.. SoCalDem Oct 2012 #30

Well, I hope you are right about Nebraska, SoCalDem David Zephyr Oct 2012 #34

I think Obama will get Nevada & Iowa SoCalDem Oct 2012 #56

I'm confident President Obama will take Ohio. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #69

If we continue GOTV, Romnesia won't sniff 260 ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #64

Obama got 1 Nebraska vote in 2008. nsd Oct 2012 #61

redistricting. This isn't 2008 cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #72

0% chance of a NE district EV this year. 0%. Really. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #83

It's harder to get to 269 than it is to 270. It's a 2% chance of being a tie. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #24

One Other Thought.... SingleSeatBiggerMeat Oct 2012 #26

That's part of why I posted this. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #38

Maybe we should just they and win the house back krawhitham Oct 2012 #27

Desperation move. MineralMan Oct 2012 #29

It will be a desperation move. Romney's in a vice now. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #70

big 3 MFM008 Oct 2012 #32

Yes! David Zephyr Oct 2012 #91

Won't happen. Romney won't take Iowa. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #33

OR Nevada! N/T MuhkRahker Oct 2012 #59

Colorado is a nightmare Dalai_1 Oct 2012 #39

So they would be playing for a tie. Losing strategy in any game. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #40

Romney can get to 270 oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #45

He's not winning Nevada or Iowa. No f'ing way. RedSpartan Oct 2012 #46

How do you know the results of the House election? JackRiddler Oct 2012 #47

he won't win Nevada bigtree Oct 2012 #48

I agree. But it's all they have left. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #92

electoral votes Takket Oct 2012 #50

hold current leads in Florida, Virginia, north Carolina...did I miss something Tribetime Oct 2012 #51

Recommended. Here's why: H2O Man Oct 2012 #52

I agree with what you say but the 269/269 scenario has been floating around for weeks and Samantha Oct 2012 #63

Thanks. The OP was about the tight vice Romney is now facing. I don't think he can get more than 269 David Zephyr Oct 2012 #73

Ok, now I'm just sick..... a kennedy Oct 2012 #95

Rmoney is not winning Nevada ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #53

Well I'll be glad when they pull the hell out of Michigan jimlup Oct 2012 #57

I'm with you. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #76

They are not going to pull out of Ohio. Iowa and NV are small states that geek tragedy Oct 2012 #58

Although I appreciate the work you've done on this, cliffordu Oct 2012 #60

It won't work out. It will show how desperate they are. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #88

So this is what obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2012 #65

Rachel talked about it tonight unc70 Oct 2012 #67

Interesting thought, but Romney cannot win Nevada - his odds are better in Ohio and New Hampshire Texas Lawyer Oct 2012 #68

An electoral map of the Scenario you Describe cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #71

Joe Scar seemed very interested in talking about this scenerio this am.. demgrrrll Oct 2012 #78

They must feel like Ohio is slipping away, then. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #84

Stick a fork in him. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #93

i DONT TRUST YOUR POST mshasta Oct 2012 #79

You're telling a guy with 11 years at DU and over 22,000 posts reflection Oct 2012 #99

No way he gets even 269 jmowreader Oct 2012 #81

If he banks on Iowa, he's gonna lose. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #82

Iowa will stay blue. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #94

You actually think the republican strategy is to make an electoral tie? davidn3600 Oct 2012 #89

This sounds more like an admission of defeat if it's true. 6000eliot Oct 2012 #97