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Kim Potter is not the sacrifice in this scenario. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #1
Sacrifice?? Maybe another word would work better to describe Kim Potter. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2021 #2
She's not a criminal in the traditional sense. She's not a threat. Shermann Dec 2021 #10
Neither was Muhammod Noor who was convicted of murder for similar situation. Nah, we need ... uponit7771 Dec 2021 #23
See post #67 Shermann Dec 2021 #69
Saw it, false equivalence based on even some of the facts Potter admits to. uponit7771 Dec 2021 #70
tell that to Daunte Wright Celerity Dec 2021 #25
What is a criminal "in the traditional sense"? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #41
Not a threat? CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #45
Well, you are absolutely correct in that surmise... PCIntern Dec 2021 #59
That was very well said. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #62
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #74
Bull crap Ferrets are Cool Dec 2021 #60
She literally killed someone completely unnecessarily Withywindle Dec 2021 #101
I agree iemanja Dec 2021 #80
Also, cops do not maintain a "civilized society." WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #3
That's not the position stated here nt Shermann Dec 2021 #7
I don't consider her being held to account a "sacrifice." Had she not been a cop but had behaved hlthe2b Dec 2021 #4
If it was sensory overload due to adrenaline and other factors, then it wasn't really reckless Shermann Dec 2021 #6
The jury disagrees with you. yardwork Dec 2021 #9
This is a fact Shermann Dec 2021 #12
Police have pushed this line for decades to justify indefensible shootings. I find your argument hlthe2b Dec 2021 #16
My assertion: "a clearly unjustified shooting" Shermann Dec 2021 #21
I am stating the conclusion of your assertions, which are, according to the use-of-force expert in hlthe2b Dec 2021 #24
It was really negligent, all the shit she could've done BEFORE she pulled her weapon spells that uponit7771 Dec 2021 #18
People who suffer that kind of "sensory overload" shouldn't be cops... hunter Dec 2021 #29
Cops do simulation training Shermann Dec 2021 #42
I don't agree. DiamondShark Dec 2021 #104
This is true NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #106
It wasn't negligent to use the wrong tool for the job? CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #47
+1, not only that but even she indicated she shouldn't have pulled a weapon at all and just let uponit7771 Dec 2021 #52
Exactly. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #55
Wasn't she the head of the POA? multigraincracker Dec 2021 #5
What is a POA? Delmette2.0 Dec 2021 #20
Police Officer Association. multigraincracker Dec 2021 #28
Thank you. Delmette2.0 Dec 2021 #31
My fault, I have a hard time multigraincracker Dec 2021 #32
Um, what? yardwork Dec 2021 #8
Don't think of it as a "sacrifice," consider it a deterrent. sop Dec 2021 #11
Oh, FFS. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #13
Was "sacrifice" used with Mohamed Noor? No ... well, there it is then uponit7771 Dec 2021 #14
Poor nice white lady. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #15
I know, right?! yardwork Dec 2021 #17
+1, just found out Noor's murder conviction was OVERTURNED !! He got murder for similar uponit7771 Dec 2021 #19
Nailed it! CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #48
That's one possible comparison Shermann Dec 2021 #67
False equivalence, Potter in this case shouldn't have been in aforementioned car in first place or uponit7771 Dec 2021 #68
OK now see post #71 Shermann Dec 2021 #72
I agree with the verdict but find the whole thing tragic, including for her. femmedem Dec 2021 #22
She made bad decisions BEFORE pulling the weapon is the reason she SHOULD go to jail. After she uponit7771 Dec 2021 #27
This! CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #51
I do agree that he should never have been pulled over in the first place femmedem Dec 2021 #65
This has been mentioned several times in this thread Shermann Dec 2021 #71
She was not justified in pulling her weapon, it wasn't needed and no other officer pulled their uponit7771 Dec 2021 #73
Ah, also it looks like there was a "use of force expert" that says that pulling a weapon wasn't ... uponit7771 Dec 2021 #75
A cop pulling a taser is almost a non-event Shermann Dec 2021 #76
That bar is irrelevant, it wasn't needed because the weapon wasn't needed and no other LEOs for 9 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #77
Maybe the situation only called for one taser Shermann Dec 2021 #79
According to use of force officer it didn't call for any taser, I don't think that fact can be talke uponit7771 Dec 2021 #81
Sorry, there isn't agreement that this wasn't an accident Shermann Dec 2021 #83
We agree on the fact that 1. a use of force officer said she didn't need to pull a weapon 2. no ... uponit7771 Dec 2021 #87
Those are really just talking points for the prosecution Shermann Dec 2021 #88
They can be both relevant fact and talking points for prosecution no? I mean if I was prosecution uponit7771 Dec 2021 #89
It's not relevant to me Shermann Dec 2021 #90
She's guilty of gross negligence for needlessly escalating a situation. Muhamad Noor was too ... uponit7771 Dec 2021 #93
There were only three officers present NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #105
Not true Mary in S. Carolina Dec 2021 #99
Not that similar Zeitghost Dec 2021 #98
"Potter mistakenly drew a gun .." she should not have drawn ANYTHING it wasn't called for and she .. uponit7771 Dec 2021 #102
Most cops don't have the temperament or the skills to use guns appropriately. hunter Dec 2021 #26
I don't know if it applies in this case or not but CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #54
"who has not demonstrated a criminal mindset or likeliness to remain a threat" marmar Dec 2021 #30
Police have greater powers than everyone else, so multigraincracker Dec 2021 #33
I agree with that Shermann Dec 2021 #39
So are doctors. They carry special insurance. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #56
She was NOT sacrificed. Justice was served. Nuff said MoonRiver Dec 2021 #34
Sounds like she's your Ashley babbit Fullduplexxx Dec 2021 #35
Boom! CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #57
SHE. KILLED. A. HUMAN. BEING. greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #36
Amazing. CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #58
I recall reading that one of the jurors was very emotional when the verdict was read. Jedi Guy Dec 2021 #37
I was certain this would result in a hung jury Shermann Dec 2021 #50
I find it very sad. One life ended. One life ruined. Minnesota Tomconroy Dec 2021 #38
There will never be any proof, but I believe she knew exactly what she was doing. marie999 Dec 2021 #40
I envy you for finding solace in that nt Shermann Dec 2021 #46
:) I find solace in the tight constraints the legal system Hortensis Dec 2021 #64
It was nine seconds NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #107
Sacrifice? WTF? CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #43
"Sacrifice?" Cringe thread leftstreet Dec 2021 #44
She was no "sacrifice." Jirel Dec 2021 #49
You sort of smuggled that "feelings of invulnerability in your gang" bit in there nt Shermann Dec 2021 #82
Whether she INTENDED to kill was not an issue in this trial. Hortensis Dec 2021 #53
Precisely. Normal citizens go to prison for accidents every day. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2021 #84
Right. For criminally negligent accidents. Driver Hortensis Dec 2021 #96
And yet, Daunte Wright is still dead. Shot by a cop who did not MineralMan Dec 2021 #61
Kim Potter is an example of a police officer being held accountable peggysue2 Dec 2021 #63
No, a charge and conviction of 2nd degree murder would have been better. marie999 Dec 2021 #78
+1, "reckless negligence" ... she didn't have to pull a weapon at all uponit7771 Dec 2021 #85
Sensory Overload? What threat? A scented Christmas tree? Mary in S. Carolina Dec 2021 #66
+1, just found out Use of Force Expert said she didn't need to pull a weapon and no other LEO uponit7771 Dec 2021 #91
Here's Kim Potter at another shooting of a black man, telling cops to turn off their cameras Swede Dec 2021 #86
How did "don't talk to each other" and "separate squad cars"... NowISeetheLight Dec 2021 #108
I landed somewhere in your vicinity Sympthsical Dec 2021 #92
She needlessly escalated the situation, I can look at that fact BEFORE she pulled a weapon and say uponit7771 Dec 2021 #94
What's what I was referring to Sympthsical Dec 2021 #95
Well said Shermann Dec 2021 #97
Shermann, if you "don't get it" Mary in S. Carolina Dec 2021 #100
All crimes require criminal intent (aside from strict liability crimes like statutory rape). Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #103
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