I like to think of my home state of California (Reply #52)

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Wed Nov 24, 2021, 06:53 PM

WarGamer (5,803 posts)

52. I like to think of my home state of California

Anyone with a gun in public is a 9-1-1 call waiting to happen.

We need to restrict public firearm carry NOT expand it...

State legislatures can do this.

How about a "no-carry" exception for all protests and demonstrations? No good can come from being armed in a charged environment.

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90 replies	Author	Time	Post
So killing in self defense is not about saving your own life anymore. [View all]	Kablooie	Nov 2021	OP
As the Judge stated after he interrupted the prosecutor,	Bluethroughu	Nov 2021	#1
and if you were afraid of the crowd itself	Skittles	Nov 2021	#3
These people don't just think they're innocent; they think they're heroes	unblock	Nov 2021	#2
Sage words my friend (nt)	Hugh_Lebowski	Nov 2021	#4
Reasonable fear of death or bodily injury	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#5
Kyle R. is a person who claimed "fear" of possible harm to himself	oasis	Nov 2021	#9
So he asked for it?	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#11
"assaulting him"?????.	oasis	Nov 2021	#12
After KR assaulted them by pointing his rifle at them? and WTF about rape man !? Rape victims don't	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#31
If that happened	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#36
KR didn't retreat shooting at unarmed people running away. That's not "retreating" by the law the	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#37
Where are you getting your story from?	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#38
Yes he did turn around REPOINTED his weapon at Rosenbaum while he was running away ! We	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#42
Yes	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#44
Yes, AFTER KR pointed his weapon at him!! OMFG, why are people leaving that fact out of the picture	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#46
Because...	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#54
He did NOT retreat, he turned around firing at those chasing him	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#61
Yes	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#66
"about to be caught" is where the prosecutor failed ... It's not where the	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#69
Not true at all	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#70
Firing a weapon while running away is not retreating, to say that's retreating would give	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#71
You are under the impression	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#74
Duty to retreat is established law in Wisconsin, KR had to after he brandished his weapon and was	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#78
Your opinion	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#79
Your Flawed Argument, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#40
It is entirely possible	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#45
And At That Point, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#47
The position taken	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#55
I Understand What the Law Is, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#56
And like those people	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#59
Based On Comprehension Of The World Around Me, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#60
This is a political forum for Democrats and liberals,	radius777	Nov 2021	#82
Last time I checked	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#83
Liberals value justice, and	radius777	Nov 2021	#88
Agree completely, the victims should've offed him in self defense,	radius777	Nov 2021	#76
Reinoehl	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#80
RW talking points. We don't know the facts (and full context) of the case	radius777	Nov 2021	#81
A predictable end	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#84
That's not what witnesses or the NYT report says.	radius777	Nov 2021	#86
Well, according to the prosecution "everybody takes a beating sometimes."	Steelrolled	Nov 2021	#10
I love how some people like to imagine the 2nd and 3rd shootings happened first	Tommy Carcetti	Nov 2021	#13
RIGHT ! Even the M$M wants leave out the fact that KR pointed his weapon first and then the crowd	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#32
What they see in the mirror	keithbvadu2	Nov 2021	#6
It's been that way for a very long time. Going back to English Common Law I believe.	Kaleva	Nov 2021	#7
Traditionally,	Elessar Zappa	Nov 2021	#15
Yep. The old reasonable fear of imminent death	Solomon	Nov 2021	#17
Any skater will tell you their board is weapon when needed	Devil Child	Nov 2021	#20
Reasonable fear of death...	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#27
Let's see. If i'm in a fight, would i want a skateboard	Solomon	Nov 2021	#29
I'm not sure what point you're making	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#30
Zeitghost, you've done a pretty good job of explaining the situation.	Lucid Dreamer	Nov 2021	#73
The 'Castle Doctrine' morphed into 'Stand Your Ground'	pfitz59	Nov 2021	#8
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2021	#14
Its not quite that simple	Amishman	Nov 2021	#16
That's an interesting take.	Kablooie	Nov 2021	#21
and it did, all three guilty as predicted	Amishman	Nov 2021	#25
Exactly.	Dr. Strange	Nov 2021	#26
Arbery didn't assault his killers first by pointing a weapon at them	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#33
You are confusing brandishing with assault	EX500rider	Nov 2021	#67
Both crimes and threatening	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#68
It all started with Clint Eastwood: "Go ahead. Make my day".	Solomon	Nov 2021	#18
The fundamentals of self defense law	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#39
You mean Reagan the Governor. Cause Dirty Harry is from 1971.	cinematicdiversions	Nov 2021	#75
This message was self-deleted by its author	Mad_Machine76	Nov 2021	#19
WI has no Stand Your Ground Law	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#41
No, this is what the NRA has wrought on society.	Initech	Nov 2021	#22
Two of the three victims literally had their hand on the barrel of the rifle...	WarGamer	Nov 2021	#23
He pointed his weapon at them first, I love how so many people are leaving that out of narrative!!!	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#34
Apparently the Jury, after reviewing the evidence... didn't find that to be accurate or relevant.	WarGamer	Nov 2021	#48
And It's A Shame That Blow Didn't Kill The Punk, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#43
The irony is...	WarGamer	Nov 2021	#49
I Agree, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#51
I like to think of my home state of California	WarGamer	Nov 2021	#52
Hear Hear, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#53
You can open carry here in CA	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#58
Letter of the Law?..IN THE CONSTITUTION...WHAT IS THAT?..WHERE DID IT COME FROM?	Stuart G	Nov 2021	#63
Most states do not require a duty to retreat	hardluck	Nov 2021	#72
It's been that way for quite awhile. English Common Law days.	Kaleva	Nov 2021	#24
This kid would have carried a pistol if he was truly just afraid	fescuerescue	Nov 2021	#28
But that'd be illegal...	WarGamer	Nov 2021	#50
Why? It was legal to carry a machine gun.	fescuerescue	Nov 2021	#77
No	Zeitghost	Nov 2021	#85
I thought that KH had an AR15	fescuerescue	Nov 2021	#89
Correct. If you mean KR.	yagotme	Nov 2021	#90
K&R, Zimmerman and KR assaulted their victims FIRST !!!	uponit7771	Nov 2021	#35
America's been breeding cowards for quite some time now.	Iggo	Nov 2021	#57
Maybe...but we also breed the ..."GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY"..do you know who Jonas Salk is? I do.	Stuart G	Nov 2021	#65
Always up to the jury....Always..!!!!!...Bill of Rights!! Entitled to .."Trial by Jury"	Stuart G	Nov 2021	#62
Does it say somewhere that the Constitution...Is the "Supreme Law of the Land"	Stuart G	Nov 2021	#64
gun humping cowards are always skeered	Skittles	Nov 2021	#87

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