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The Democratic brand is broken. The infrastructure bill isn't fixing it. [View all] brooklynite Nov 2021 OP

Why would you feel the need to respond in advance to complaints? SouthernCal_Dem Nov 2021 #1

Because I'd like to move the debate to the substance of the story, not the incidentals. brooklynite Nov 2021 #3

The 'substance' of the story is a lie based on a biased opinion of some 'focus group'. Budi Nov 2021 #61

Exactly.. there is No Cha Nov 2021 #64

Every focus group's opinion is "biased". That's the point. brooklynite Nov 2021 #69

The problem comes when the Politico Writer Interprets the Focus Group results. Budi Nov 2021 #74

What is biased in their reporting of the results? brooklynite Nov 2021 #76

Perceived superiority. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #6

And what do voters believe that the GOP stands for? Eyeball_Kid Nov 2021 #2

brooklynite melm00se Nov 2021 #17

I guarantee you this, gab13by13 Nov 2021 #23

THIS is the winning message Cosmocat Nov 2021 #111

WTF's this "brand" thing mean? panader0 Nov 2021 #84

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #87

Ok, let me clarify melm00se Nov 2021 #91

So agree, Panader0 and Gab13by13. Democratic principles Hortensis Nov 2021 #99

That's what we think they stand for (and its a good argument) but that opinion is not universal Amishman Nov 2021 #100

True. kentuck Nov 2021 #4

I would say Dems focus on issues, Repugs focus on messaging. OnDoutside Nov 2021 #24

Indeed! kentuck Nov 2021 #27

Is your favorite publication still saying DeSantis won the pandemic? BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #5

+1! Cha Nov 2021 #66

to point #3 anti stupid Nov 2021 #7

One thing I have noticed with the messaging... kentuck Nov 2021 #10

repubs have a huge echo chamber with amplifiers anti stupid Nov 2021 #29

Because MSM has the same interests as Republicans. kentuck Nov 2021 #32

I have a complaint with #2. gab13by13 Nov 2021 #8

Until politicians, including Democrats, are willing to tell the truth, Ron Green Nov 2021 #9

false equivalency anti stupid Nov 2021 #13

2000: Schwarzenegger introduces the Hummer. 2021: Biden introduces Ron Green Nov 2021 #35

The problem with "Truth" is who defines it. In most cases walkingman Nov 2021 #16

ummm anti stupid Nov 2021 #40

Neither one. Any sort of Hummer should not even be made, Ron Green Nov 2021 #46

Ilhan Omar has also made some statements about eliminating incarceration. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #106

A lot of Americans can't think for the themselves anyway. Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #11

But it's not the younger voters Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #44

I worked with a lot of older workers. Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #51

The "younger voters" you describe also ate Tide Pods & bought the lie about Free Shit. Budi Nov 2021 #65

Correct Cosmocat Nov 2021 #112

One thing is we should bypass the states and give the money directly in all cases we can dsc Nov 2021 #12

I agree with some of your points awesomerwb1 Nov 2021 #14

Why is it incumbent on the rank and file to come up with a messaging strategy? dalton99a Nov 2021 #15

Agree. kentuck Nov 2021 #19

+1 leftstreet Nov 2021 #37

More along the lines of "you don't know all the messaging we're doing..." brooklynite Nov 2021 #37

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 We need to stop blaming "other shit" for dem poor messaging !!! uponit7771 Nov 2021 #72

They are running ads in my local media touting benefits of infrastructure bill. That's a start. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #18

The takeaway is that we need to push for much more aggressively progressive legislation. PTWB Nov 2021 #20

i dont feel broken... samnsara Nov 2021 #21

I saw a poll a few days ago voters are overwelmingly doc03 Nov 2021 #22

In some cases it may take years, gab13by13 Nov 2021 #49

Voters aren't connecting BBB with dems, poor messaging. We need to do better and stop blaming every uponit7771 Nov 2021 #73

I agree all we have heard for months is bickering doc03 Nov 2021 #85

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2021 #90

The Democratic Party represents a very broad coalition, so there are (too) many messages andym Nov 2021 #25

When they poll these people ask them what Republicans have done for them and what they stand for. chowder66 Nov 2021 #26

Republicans TheFarseer Nov 2021 #98

This. So much this. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #107

Yes, stop with labeling everyone a racist! TheFarseer Nov 2021 #110

We live in an era of negative partisanship. Blaukraut Nov 2021 #28

These results do not surprise me .. and while they should be considered, they should not be taken karynnj Nov 2021 #30

I think the Democratic loss in VA may have been misread? kentuck Nov 2021 #36

The "infrastructure bill" could fix it... kentuck Nov 2021 #31

Sigh. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #33

Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #34

That's your assessment of President Biden, "an 80 year old white dude"? George II Nov 2021 #42

yeah he only just turned 79 WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #43

Why is politico & it's writers even allowed on DU anymore? Budi Nov 2021 #39

I just checked "https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/" - coincidentally they last updated.... George II Nov 2021 #48

Thanks. "We tell you what to think" -Joseph Goebbles Budi Nov 2021 #50

It's difficult when our brand is "doing something." joshcryer Nov 2021 #41

"Vote For More Corporate Subsidizing!" leftstreet Nov 2021 #52

See? joshcryer Nov 2021 #60

The bill isn't subsidizing the citizens of Taylor TX leftstreet Nov 2021 #70

The Samsung factory, directly benefitting from it... joshcryer Nov 2021 #79

LOL leftstreet Nov 2021 #86

Demand begets supply. joshcryer Nov 2021 #109

I hope you get your "educated smart people" leftstreet Nov 2021 #113

Okay, you're discussing my old stomping grounds. TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #89

The Samsung site will be 1200 acres Klaralven Nov 2021 #101

It is going to be outside the US 79 bypass to the southwest of Taylor with some frontage on FM 973. TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #103

Thanks Klaralven Nov 2021 #104

You are so wrong. You haven't lived there since the 80s? joshcryer Nov 2021 #108

I don't have any complaints about Taylor being awarded the factory or the incentives offered to TexasTowelie Nov 2021 #114

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #83

"The Democratic brand is" NOT "broken." George II Nov 2021 #45

++++ hlthe2b Nov 2021 #92

What is your deal? BradAllison Nov 2021 #47

Care to elaborate? brooklynite Nov 2021 #53

I think he has a point. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #93

Here's another fact for you Bettie Nov 2021 #54

I have no object to what you consider progressive goals...as long as you can sell them. brooklynite Nov 2021 #56

Your posted headline is a flat out Lie Budi Nov 2021 #55

I'm reporting on the research. Feel free to present a different case. brooklynite Nov 2021 #58

Politico's article was sourced from "a recent focus group" Budi Nov 2021 #59

Crickets.. Cha Nov 2021 #67

The first point in the source data.... brooklynite Nov 2021 #68

The data that a conservative writer interpreted from a 'focus group'. Budi Nov 2021 #77

NO. The report OF the firm that carried out the Focus Group.... brooklynite Nov 2021 #80

The Firm. So what. The Headline is a Politico writer's article. An opinion. Budi Nov 2021 #82

umad bro? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #97

"Are Third Way's Focus Groups Valid Research?" lapucelle Nov 2021 #96

Update: THIRD WAY just sent me the hard data... brooklynite Nov 2021 #57

DM'd you... nt WarGamer Nov 2021 #62

Damning report. joshcryer Nov 2021 #81

We might disagree a bit on points 1 and 2, but 3 is spot on. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #63

Dems repeated THE SAME MISTAKES FROM OBAMA CARE in BBB and let the GQP define the bill uponit7771 Nov 2021 #71

Oh, joy! blogslug Nov 2021 #75

First 2 paragraphs: collapse, wrong, bad, worse, problems, failings, flagging, wreck. betsuni Nov 2021 #78

been telling the DNC things for years but it doesnt really want to hear from msongs Nov 2021 #88

Here's #4. lapucelle Nov 2021 #94

Message #1: The Republicans are greedy, liars, and insane muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #95

Politico 🙄 OBrien Nov 2021 #102

Not saying this poll isn't accurate Mad_Machine76 Nov 2021 #105